Re: Paradise

[Branden Robinson]

On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 03:53:22PM -0600, Jeffrey Watts wrote:
> Hello, I'm a member of the Paradise Netrek development team.  Paradise
> Netrek is a X based game that started as Xtrek back in 1986.  It is a
> multiplayer, real-time, Internet game.
> 
> Paradise has undergone a revival recently, and active development has
> resumed.
> 
> The Paradise Netrek developers would like to work with Debian to get
> Paradise included in Debian GNU/Linux.
> 
> Please let me know what I need to do or who I need to contact.  I should
> be on debian-devel but feel free to CC me.

Sounds great, but the first thing we need to know is:

What's the license on Paradise Netrek?

If it is DFSG-free (and it is if it uses the GPL, LGPL, MIT, or BSD without
advertising clause licenses), then you're bound to generate enthusiasm.  :)

-- 
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Debian GNU/Linux   | stupidity.
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Re: Paradise

[Stephane Bortzmeyer]

On Tuesday 28 March 2000, at 15 h 53, the keyboard of Jeffrey Watts 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The Paradise Netrek developers would like to work with Debian to get
> Paradise included in Debian GNU/Linux.

Thanks for your interest in Debian and welcome here.

First, you should tell what your licence is 
( if you want food for 
thought). Since Debian is about free software 
, this is the first thing we usually 
consider.

Second, the inclusion of a package into Debian depends only on one maintainer 
packaging the software and uploading it. There is no central decision or vote 
to include or reject a package. Therefore, you have to find a volunteer (any 
Debian maintainer, they are several hundreds). Asking on debian-devel is a good 
idea, just be sure you include the licence and the address to download your 
software.

Re: Paradise

[Jeffrey Watts]

On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Neil Hunt wrote:

> I'm in the process of debianising the vanilla server, and a few of the
> clients, if you wish, I can also take care of the paradise server.

Unfortunately, this cannot be done.  I have discovered that the Paradise
server code has an annoying "non-commercial use" clause that prohibits
distribution for a fee.

I'm working to correct the copyright and license problems with Paradise.

The client meets the specifications, though the license is weak and poorly
written.  Contact me off-list and we'll work on something.

The client has had a major overhaul, and the two trees (TedTurner and
standard) have been merged.  In addition, Dave Ahn has merged in many
fixes from the Bronco client.  We are planning a new release Real Soon
Now.

Thanks,
Jeffrey.

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| Sprint Communications  |  difference in dinosaurs.  Any clunker|
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Re: Paradise

[Neil Hunt]

Hi Jeffrey,
I'm in the process of debianising the vanilla server, and a few of the clients, 
if you wish, I can also take care of the paradise server.

Neil
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 03:53:22PM -0600, Jeffrey Watts wrote:
> Hello, I'm a member of the Paradise Netrek development team.  Paradise
> Netrek is a X based game that started as Xtrek back in 1986.  It is a
> multiplayer, real-time, Internet game.
> 
> Paradise has undergone a revival recently, and active development has
> resumed.
> 
> The Paradise Netrek developers would like to work with Debian to get
> Paradise included in Debian GNU/Linux.
> 
> Please let me know what I need to do or who I need to contact.  I should
> be on debian-devel but feel free to CC me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeffrey.
> 
> o---o
> | Jeffrey Watts |
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] o---o
> | Systems Programmer | "Is uniformity [of religion] attainable?  |
> | Network Systems Management |  Millions of innocent men, women, and |
> | Sprint Communications  |  children, since the introduction of  |
> o|  Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, |
>  |  fined, imprisoned; yet we have not   |
>  |  advanced one inch towards uniformity.|
>  |  -- Thomas Jefferson, "Notes on Virginia" |
>  o---o
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Paradise

[David Starner]

On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 03:53:22PM -0600, Jeffrey Watts wrote:
> Hello, I'm a member of the Paradise Netrek development team.  Paradise
> Netrek is a X based game that started as Xtrek back in 1986.  It is a
> multiplayer, real-time, Internet game.
> 
> Paradise has undergone a revival recently, and active development has
> resumed.
> 
> The Paradise Netrek developers would like to work with Debian to get
> Paradise included in Debian GNU/Linux.
> 
> Please let me know what I need to do or who I need to contact.  I should
> be on debian-devel but feel free to CC me.

It's simple really. There's two ways: one, you get a developer to jump
up and say "I want to package Paradise!". If this doesn't success in doing
that, the other is to package it yourself (there's plenty of documentation
and thousands of examples.) Then ask this list for someone to sponsor it 
into Debian. Assuming that it has a DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines) 
compliant license and it's packaged right, someone should be willing to
do that. 

-- 
David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Only a nerd would worry about wrong parentheses with
square brackets. But that's what mathematicians are.
   -- Dr. Burchard, math professor at OSU

RE: Paradise

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

> 
> Please let me know what I need to do or who I need to contact.  I should
> be on debian-devel but feel free to CC me.
> 

we would like to know what license your software is under.  We only place Open
Source licensed code into Debian proper.  See our web site for details (you
will often hear this referred to as DFSG -- Debian Free Software Guidelines 
-- free.

So, that out of the way, you either get an existing member of Debian to package
your software or you enroll to be a developer yourself.