Re: Powerfulness

2006-01-11 Thread Frank Küster
Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 10 January 2006 03:44, Miles Bader wrote:
 Juergen Salk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  According to their package descriptions, we seem to have exactly
  six powerful text editors in Debian. These are elvis, jove,
  mined, ne, nedit and zed. Emacs, vim and many others do not
  belong to them. Does that mean these are less powerful than the
  powerful ones?

 You're right in general, but there actually seems to be a fairly
 distinct divide in editors, between simple editors for newbs and
 not-so-simple but, er, powerful editors

 So vim is in the simple, for newbies class?

No, there's actually three classes:  Simple editors for newbies,
not-so-simple but, er, powerful editors, and religions.

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Re: Powerfulness

2006-01-11 Thread Adam Heath
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, Frank Küster wrote:

  So vim is in the simple, for newbies class?

 No, there's actually three classes:  Simple editors for newbies,
 not-so-simple but, er, powerful editors, and religions.

ae is the religion variety.



Re: Powerfulness

2006-01-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 03:44, Miles Bader wrote:
 Juergen Salk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  According to their package descriptions, we seem to have exactly
  six powerful text editors in Debian. These are elvis, jove,
  mined, ne, nedit and zed. Emacs, vim and many others do not
  belong to them. Does that mean these are less powerful than the
  powerful ones?

 You're right in general, but there actually seems to be a fairly
 distinct divide in editors, between simple editors for newbs and
 not-so-simple but, er, powerful editors

So vim is in the simple, for newbies class?


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Re: Powerfulness

2006-01-10 Thread Miles Bader
Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 You're right in general, but there actually seems to be a fairly
 distinct divide in editors, between simple editors for newbs and
 not-so-simple but, er, powerful editors

 So vim is in the simple, for newbies class?

Naw, it just needs powerful added to its package description... :-/

-miles
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Re: Powerfulness

2006-01-09 Thread Miles Bader
Juergen Salk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 According to their package descriptions, we seem to have exactly
 six powerful text editors in Debian. These are elvis, jove,
 mined, ne, nedit and zed. Emacs, vim and many others do not
 belong to them. Does that mean these are less powerful than the
 powerful ones? 

You're right in general, but there actually seems to be a fairly
distinct divide in editors, between simple editors for newbs and
not-so-simple but, er, powerful editors

-miles
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Re: Powerfulness (was: tioga : a powerful plotting system in ruby)

2006-01-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 03:28:27PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 23:52 +0100, Juergen Salk wrote:
 
  I am just wondering if we shouldn't be more chary of using 
  meaningless (or soliciting) phrases like powerful in 
  package descriptions in general.
 
 Sounds like something that should be added to lintian.

Too hard, too many combinations, too much investigation needed to pin
it down. For example, there's over 150 packages using the word 'best'
- I can't imagine that could possibly be right, but you never know
without reading the thing...

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Re: Powerfulness (was: tioga : a powerful plotting system in ruby)

2006-01-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2006-01-07 at 23:52 +0100, Juergen Salk wrote:

 I am just wondering if we shouldn't be more chary of using 
 meaningless (or soliciting) phrases like powerful in 
 package descriptions in general.

Sounds like something that should be added to lintian. I suggest filing
a wishlist bug with a patch. I recently made a lintian patch to check
for best-practice homepages in the description field, which was easy,
just modify checks/description and checks/description.desc.

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