Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread Ralf Treinen
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 I was wondering that the work done by Project Gutenberg
 (http://sailor.gutenberg.org) should be made available through debian.

This came already to discussion some months ago when someone proposed to
package the constitution of Finland.

The point is that packaging all of the Gutenberg files would take huge
disk space, and the added value of debian packaging would be quite small
since downloading files from Gutenberg is very easy.

Ralf.



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Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
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Date: 02 Sep 2000 11:00:12 -0400
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 Hello,
 
 I was wondering that the work done by Project Gutenberg
 (http://sailor.gutenberg.org) should be made available through debian.
 
 It would be great to use 'apt' to get all the great work done there.
 
 It shouldn't be difficult at all to package. I don't know if this has been
 discussed earlier (sorry, I didn't check the archives) but I'd like to know
 of what other people think about it.

 Not all Project Gutenberg documents are DFSG free.  They use a
file called `SMALL PRINT' as a license document.  There are currently
several versions of `SMALL PRINT' in their archive.  Ver.04.29.93,  and
Ver.03.08.92 require a royalty for commercial distribution.  I believe
I have seen versions that do not restrict commercial distribution, but
I can't locate an example at the moment.

 Most, if not all versions of `SMALL PRINT' include the following:

This PROJECT GUTENBERG-tm etext, like most PROJECT GUTENBERG-
tm etexts, is a public domain work distributed by Professor
Michael S. Hart through the Project Gutenberg Association at
Carnegie-Mellon University (the Project).  Among other
things, this means that no one owns a United States copyright
on or for this work, so the Project (and you!) can copy and
distribute it in the United States without permission and
without paying copyright royalties.  Special rules, set forth
below, apply if you wish to copy and distribute this etext
under the Project's PROJECT GUTENBERG trademark.

 . . . . .

DISTRIBUTION UNDER PROJECT GUTENBERG-tm
You may distribute copies of this etext electronically, or by
disk, book or any other medium if you either delete this
Small Print! and all other references to Project Gutenberg,
or:
(Followed by license conditions,including the royalty requirement.)


 It appears that if the `SMALL PRINT' is deleted, the remainder of
the document is DFSG free.  However, there would be no copyright
notice or license attached to that copy.  I am not sure if it could be
distributed in Debian without a copyright notice or license.  I have
copied this to debian-legal for an opinion on this.

Bob
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Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread Andreas Fuchs

Today, Ralf Treinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 I was wondering that the work done by Project Gutenberg
 (http://sailor.gutenberg.org) should be made available through debian.
 This came already to discussion some months ago when someone proposed to
 package the constitution of Finland.

Yes. The same point was made when anarchism was packaged. Gutenberg
seems to be a nice argument when it comes to massive data that is not
really debian-rele^W^W^W^W^W^W.
(No, I will not go there, and I hope that you won't, either (-8)

 The point is that packaging all of the Gutenberg files would take huge
 disk space, and the added value of debian packaging would be quite small
 since downloading files from Gutenberg is very easy.

A gutenberg index and retrieval program, OTOH...
(mental note: must write this)

 Ralf.

regards,
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Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread Chris Gray
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 06:10:18PM +0200, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
 A gutenberg index and retrieval program, OTOH...
 (mental note: must write this)

Have a look at www.gutenbook.org  

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: Project Gutenberg

2000-09-02 Thread viral
On Sat, Sep 02, 2000 at 06:10:18PM +0200, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
 A gutenberg index and retrieval program, OTOH...
 (mental note: must write this)

A search on freshmeat reveals a neat program called gutenbook.
Its in perl, and uses perl-gtk.
It does indexing and retrieving, and although still in beta, is quite a nice
tool. 

And it is GPL.

viral


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