Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:20:40PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:55:51PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: Who is going to ITP kde ? I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I was wondering what happened to it? It didn't appear in the archives, it wasn't moved to REJECT or DONE, it just disappeared. I was wondering if there was some long flame war on debian-private that I was missing. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, Rock and Roll Children -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:05:27PM -0500, David Starner wrote: I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I was wondering what happened to it? It didn't appear in the archives, it wasn't moved to REJECT or DONE, it just disappeared. I was wondering if there was some long flame war on debian-private that I was missing. Still in incoming... dont look at me :) -- Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - From a 1996 MicroSloth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want MicroSoft! -- See! They do get some things right! (I gotta stop stealing Sigs) - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! pgpH3zVWsSxQg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:21:02AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:05:27PM -0500, David Starner wrote: I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I was wondering what happened to it? It didn't appear in the archives, it wasn't moved to REJECT or DONE, it just disappeared. I was wondering if there was some long flame war on debian-private that I was missing. Still in incoming... dont look at me :) I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL problems), or some terribly freaky bug in the software that writes the webpage. -- David Starner - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http/ftp: dvdeug.dhis.org It was starting to rain on the night that they cried forever, It was blinding with snow on the night that they screamed goodbye. - Dio, Rock and Roll Children -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:05:27PM -0500, David Starner wrote: He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. I was wondering what happened to it? It didn't appear in the archives, it wasn't moved to REJECT or DONE, it just disappeared. I was wondering if there was some long flame war on debian-private that I was missing. No flamewar on -private (at the moment), and the archive people wouldn't just delete it. Most likely you're seeing mirroring delays. -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key 1024D/DCF9DAB3 Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org/) 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC The QuakeForge Project (http://quakeforge.net/) 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 * Simunye is on a oc3-oc12 daem0n simmy: bite me. :) Simunye daemon: okay :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:29:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote: I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL problems), or some terribly freaky bug in the software that writes the webpage. kdesupport is on auric, kdelibs is on pandora (non-us) (dont ask me why, I dont know) -- Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Trees moving back and forth make the wind blow. - Debian GNU/Linux Ooohh You are missing out! pgpnD01wXiky9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:30PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:29:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote: I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL problems), or some terribly freaky bug in the software that writes the webpage. kdesupport is on auric, kdelibs is on pandora (non-us) (dont ask me why, I dont know) KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds against libssl so it's in non-US. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD pgp5aOG76u74O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Qt going GPL ...
Still in incoming... dont look at me :) I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL problems), or some terribly freaky bug in the software that writes the webpage. I had removed both to clean up licensing items at one point..then I removed kdelibs to drop it on non-US. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 09:20:05PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote: Hugues Marilleau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who is going to ITP kde ? I'm dreaming about an apt-get install kde ... Rather task-kde ;-) (SCNR) already have one. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds against libssl so it's in non-US. Can you do a non-ssl version too for main? Otherwise American CD manufacturers aren't going to be able to include it and therefore the rest of KDE. (or will they? This whole topic is so confusing.) I'm going to have to do a similiar split for imap as the next version will have SSL support. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:44:06AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds against libssl so it's in non-US. Can you do a non-ssl version too for main? Otherwise American CD manufacturers aren't going to be able to include it and therefore the rest of KDE. (or will they? This whole topic is so confusing.) I'm going to have to do a similiar split for imap as the next version will have SSL support. I guess I could..the question comes down to how many different versions of a package (or library) do we want? And what are the legal issues nowadays??? in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with ssl and 1 without. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with ssl and 1 without. It may be easier just to build it twice, once with SSL and once without. That's what I'm going to do. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:12AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with ssl and 1 without. It may be easier just to build it twice, once with SSL and once without. That's what I'm going to do. I just want to make sure that binaries built against the non-ssl kdelibs package's will allow for the ssl functionality if used with the ssl kdelibs packages... for example...I build 2 different kdelibs..one with ssl one with out... kdebase comes along which has functionality that is only activitated when kdelibs is built with ssl...(ie..konqueror will have https support)...now, konqueror isn't built against libssl...so there is no requirement for it... I just need to find out whether kdelibs reports to kdebase during compile time whether it was built against ssl or not... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
Previously Ivan E. Moore II wrote: I just need to find out whether kdelibs reports to kdebase during compile time whether it was built against ssl or not... With the current dpkg-shlibdeps it will since kdelibs will pull in the ssl libraries and ldd will report that. Provided that you link konqueror correctly (ie only to kdelibs and not to the ssl libs) that will be fixed once I upload dpkg 1.7.0 which has a dpkg-shlibdeps that uses objdump instead of ldd. Wichert. -- _ / Nothing is fool-proof to a sufficiently talented fool \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D | pgpYjqJOb0YbW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:50:03PM +0200, Hugues Marilleau wrote: And what about Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian Win32 ? They are not Unix (Linux is ?) and only Qt/Unix is GPL ? I think this is a good reason to *not* include KDE in Debian. If there is a free version, the rest is a matter of porting. We have lots of unix-specific packages. I don't see a problem here. Richard Braakman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Hugues Marilleau's letter: Who is going to ITP kde ? I'm dreaming about an apt-get install kde ... And what about Debian GNU/Hurd and Debian Win32 ? They are not Unix (Linux is ?) and only Qt/Unix is GPL ? I think this is a good reason to *not* include KDE in Debian. absolutely *not*. we discriminate on LICENSES not on our personal taste. if Qt/UNIX is GPL you can always fork and port it to, e.g., Win, HURD and other unices. debian is *full* of free software not (yet) ported to other systems. ciao, federico -- Federico Di Gregorio MIXAD LIVE System Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer Italian Press Contact[EMAIL PROTECTED] A short story: I want you. I love you. I'll miss you. -- Me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:50:03PM +0200, Hugues Marilleau wrote: Who is going to ITP kde ? I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
Hugues Marilleau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who is going to ITP kde ? I'm dreaming about an apt-get install kde ... Rather task-kde ;-) (SCNR) Regards, Andy -- Andreas Rottmann | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pfeilgasse 4-6/725 | A-1080 Wien | Austria | Europe http://www.8ung.at/rotty| GnuPG Key: www.8ung.at/rotty/dru.asc Fingerprint | 3E9A C485 49A4 1D17 2EA7 2BA7 22AE C9BF 8173 6279 [one of 78,35% Austrians who didn´t vote for Haider!] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:55:51PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: Who is going to ITP kde ? I guess RevKrusty may want to put his packages into Debian? He already uploaded kdelibs, I didn't see if it was installed. -- Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG key 1024D/DCF9DAB3 Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.debian.org/) 20F6 2261 F185 7A3E 79FC The QuakeForge Project (http://quakeforge.net/) 44F9 8FF7 D7A3 DCF9 DAB3 Knghtbrd CVS/Entries had the line I needed to alter Mercury Knghtbrd: Was about to mention such.. G Mercury Knghtbrd: Now, ready to commit? Knghtbrd wish me luck Knghtbrd Mercury: it's committed Knghtbrd Mercury: and after all that, I should be too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
