Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]

2000-09-12 Thread Torsten Landschoff
reopen 71107
retitle 71107 Explorer is unmaintained and should be removed
thanks

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:27:00AM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote:
It's orphaned.  And has been for about 7 months.  The maintainer
should be debian-qa, but it has not been reset to that.
  
  ...that would explain it. :)  
 
 righto then, if people come to a consensus, file a bug on ftp.d.o to get it
 moved to project/orphaned/, removed, or have the maintainer overriden.

Please move it to orphaned. It's neither maintained in Debian nor upstream
and the homepage is dead. We have enough file manager in the dist. If 
a new version appears we can still add it to potato with a Replaces: explorer
and that's it.

Greetings

Torsten


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Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]

2000-09-09 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
  I would also recommend removing explorer as it depends on a non-existant 
  package (qt1g and not libqt1g) and therefore isn't installable.
 
 done.
 
 I cannot remove explorer unless the maintainer asks. besides, it should be
 recompilable with qt2.2.
 

ok...the source we (Debian) have for explorer does not compile against qt2.
The web site it refers to (and ftp site) don't work...it also seems that
upstream has changed the name of the package...and that site is also non
functional.  All documentation I have seen on the net says it is coded for
qt1 only and that documentation is 3 years old.

As it is now the current package does not work, cannot be installed due
to dependencies, and it's not part of main.  The last few uploads have
been done as NMU's...

I understand not removing a package that works without the maintainers 
approval, but a package that is non-functional and un-installable?
(not trying to beat you up..just trying to understand...if this is 
policy then I need to bring this scenerio up to debian-policy...)

Anyways,  I will continue to look online for this and hope either to get
it to work or for the Maintainer to pipe up.

Ivan

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Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]

2000-09-09 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 06:39:36PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 
 As it is now the current package does not work, cannot be installed due
 to dependencies, and it's not part of main.  The last few uploads have
 been done as NMU's...

that in itself could suggest that it could be removed. but...
 
 I understand not removing a package that works without the maintainers 
 approval, but a package that is non-functional and un-installable?
 (not trying to beat you up..just trying to understand...if this is 
 policy then I need to bring this scenerio up to debian-policy...)

The maintainer may be unaware of our conversation, (god knows why) and may
be working on an upload as we speak. IMO, its the same philosophy as doing
a NMU.

 Anyways,  I will continue to look online for this and hope either to get
 it to work or for the Maintainer to pipe up.

Feel free... I would suggest you simply file an RC bug on explorer, so that
when woody comes around to being frozen, it will be removed, if it has not
been resolved.

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Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]

2000-09-09 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
 Michael Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  The maintainer may be unaware of our conversation, (god knows why)
  and may be working on an upload as we speak. IMO, its the same
  philosophy as doing a NMU.

 Oh, yeah.

 http://bugs.debian.org/68274

 It's orphaned.  And has been for about 7 months.  The maintainer
 should be debian-qa, but it has not been reset to that.


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Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]

2000-09-09 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
   The maintainer may be unaware of our conversation, (god knows why)
   and may be working on an upload as we speak. IMO, its the same
   philosophy as doing a NMU.
 
  Oh, yeah.
 
  http://bugs.debian.org/68274
 
  It's orphaned.  And has been for about 7 months.  The maintainer
  should be debian-qa, but it has not been reset to that.

...that would explain it. :)  


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Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]

2000-09-09 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 02:01:00AM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
   Oh, yeah.
  
   http://bugs.debian.org/68274
  
   It's orphaned.  And has been for about 7 months.  The maintainer
   should be debian-qa, but it has not been reset to that.
 
 ...that would explain it. :)  

righto then, if people come to a consensus, file a bug on ftp.d.o to get it
moved to project/orphaned/, removed, or have the maintainer overriden.

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Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody

2000-09-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:35:44AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote:
 'explorer' also depends on it (using the old qt1g package name)

Explorer also has nine bugs, some important, six over two years old.
Note especially:

 #29053: package explorer depends on obsolete library libstdc++2.8 (1y, 308d)
 #53642: Bad dependency (254d)
 #16190: explorer: explorer segfaults (2y, 264d)
 #20560: explorer: Fails to run due to undefined symbol in shared library
 (2y, 161d)
 #20764: explorer: doesn't start (2y, 158d)

The first two are important -- if they're not fixed, explorer isn't
going to be released as a part of woody.

I don't think explorer is sufficient justification to keep qt1 in woody.

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Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody

2000-09-08 Thread Brian Almeida
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 09:57:41AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
 I don't think explorer is sufficient justification to keep qt1 in woody.
I wasn't implying it was.  I was just saying it needs to be fixed, or
removed.

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Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody

2000-09-07 Thread Brian Almeida
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 04:16:03AM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
 Hey,
 
 I'd like to remove qt1 from woody.  I only seem to find 1 package that
 depends on it currently (tuxeyes) and due to the fact that it's non-free
 and qt2 is out with a gpl'd license and all, I think we should discourage it's
 use just as Troll is.
'explorer' also depends on it (using the old qt1g package name):
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^Package  
Package: explorer
Package: tuxeyes
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Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody

2000-09-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:35:44AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 04:16:03AM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
  Hey,
  
  I'd like to remove qt1 from woody.  I only seem to find 1 package that
  depends on it currently (tuxeyes) and due to the fact that it's non-free
  and qt2 is out with a gpl'd license and all, I think we should discourage 
  it's
  use just as Troll is.
 'explorer' also depends on it (using the old qt1g package name):

missed one..thanks.

Ivan

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