Re: Release Team Sprint Results
On 11/09/2014 07:52 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: Our release managers chose the following codenames for future releases: * Debian 9 Stretch * Debian 10 Buster Thanks *A LOT* for choosing one more name in advance, so that we don't have to file unblocks during the freeze to just add support for that. It's also super cool to be able to talk about Buster rather than Jessie+2. And by the way, Stretch will be super nice on t-shirts and all ! :) Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5460ba65.5070...@debian.org
Re: Release Team Sprint Results
Hi Jonathan, On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:52:31AM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: Release notes = We seek patches and editors for the release notes. We identified the following topics as being particularly important: - init system changes - How to choose (before upgrading) - Pros / cons of upgrading - i486 support dropped I'm rather certain that i486 hasn't been supported in Debian for at least the past 4 years (and probably much longer, my memory is fuzzy; but as a data point, https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/msg00687.html). Why is this on the release team's radar as something that needs to be documented in the release notes for jessie? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Release Team Sprint Results
[re-adding -devel@] On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 21:20 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 13:08 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Jonathan, On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:52:31AM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: [...] - i486 support dropped I'm rather certain that i486 hasn't been supported in Debian for at least the past 4 years (and probably much longer, my memory is fuzzy; but as a data point, https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/msg00687.html). Why is this on the release team's radar as something that needs to be documented in the release notes for jessie? I believe this was intended as a reference to this change in the latest Linux kernel upload: * [i386] Rename 486 flavour to 586, as it has not worked on 486 processors since we enabled CC_STACKPROTECTOR (Closes: #766105) Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1415655187.3087.10.ca...@adam-barratt.org.uk
Re: Release Team Sprint Results
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:33:07PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: [re-adding -devel@] On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 21:20 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 13:08 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Jonathan, On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:52:31AM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: [...] - i486 support dropped I'm rather certain that i486 hasn't been supported in Debian for at least the past 4 years (and probably much longer, my memory is fuzzy; but as a data point, https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/msg00687.html). Why is this on the release team's radar as something that needs to be documented in the release notes for jessie? I believe this was intended as a reference to this change in the latest Linux kernel upload: * [i386] Rename 486 flavour to 586, as it has not worked on 486 processors since we enabled CC_STACKPROTECTOR (Closes: #766105) Ok, well, given that Debian didn't work on 486 for years before that, I think this is a non-event that doesn't need to be release-noted. However, given that this fatal bug has not (so far as I know) been reported in the 5 years since it was introduced in unstable, I suspect you're one of a very few people still using Debian on a 486, and you may find many other things broken. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=766105#28 -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Release Team Sprint Results
On 2014-11-10 22:01, Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:33:07PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: [re-adding -devel@] On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 21:20 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 13:08 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Jonathan, On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:52:31AM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: [...] - i486 support dropped I'm rather certain that i486 hasn't been supported in Debian for at least the past 4 years (and probably much longer, my memory is fuzzy; but as a data point, https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/msg00687.html). Why is this on the release team's radar as something that needs to be documented in the release notes for jessie? I believe this was intended as a reference to this change in the latest Linux kernel upload: * [i386] Rename 486 flavour to 586, as it has not worked on 486 processors since we enabled CC_STACKPROTECTOR (Closes: #766105) Yes, that matches my recollection. (Our notes on this are pretty rough, and what's in that mail is nearly verbatim from the notes, so...) Ok, well, given that Debian didn't work on 486 for years before that, I think this is a non-event that doesn't need to be release-noted. That sounds reasonable. Thanks! -- Jonathan Wiltshire j...@debian.org Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw 4096R: 0xD3524C51 / 0A55 B7C5 1223 3942 86EC 74C3 5394 479D D352 4C51 directhex i have six years of solaris sysadmin experience, from 8-10. i am well qualified to say it is made from bonghits layered on top of bonghits -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/09115201e23228ccfb8fd356a90dd...@hogwarts.powdarrmonkey.net
Re: Release Team Sprint Results
* Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [141110 23:06]: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:33:07PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: [re-adding -devel@] On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 21:20 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Mon, 2014-11-10 at 13:08 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi Jonathan, On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:52:31AM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: [...] - i486 support dropped I'm rather certain that i486 hasn't been supported in Debian for at least the past 4 years (and probably much longer, my memory is fuzzy; but as a data point, https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/msg00687.html). Why is this on the release team's radar as something that needs to be documented in the release notes for jessie? I believe this was intended as a reference to this change in the latest Linux kernel upload: * [i386] Rename 486 flavour to 586, as it has not worked on 486 processors since we enabled CC_STACKPROTECTOR (Closes: #766105) Ok, well, given that Debian didn't work on 486 for years before that, I think this is a non-event that doesn't need to be release-noted. Well, I think the reference was mostly what we might need to document. If nobody noticed that, then well, you are right, and perhaps we don't need to document that. (Technically it was still input to the release notes, which however was then ignored.) Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141110221935.gd...@mails.so.argh.org
