Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes

2008-09-01 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 08:01:29AM +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> Release notes
> ~
> There is still quite a lot of work to be done on the lenny release notes.
> Coordination for this will happen on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailing list (further information to appear in a mail to that list). If
> you know of any issues that need to be documented, file them as bugs
> against the ``release-notes'' pseudo package.

  Do you know where I can find the current version of the release notes?
I don't want to file bugs asking for documentation of things that are
already documented.  Or is the NewInLenny page the staging ground for
the release notes?

   Thanks,
  Daniel


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Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes

2008-09-01 Thread Luk Claes
Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 08:01:29AM +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
> heard to say:
>> Release notes
>> ~
>> There is still quite a lot of work to be done on the lenny release notes.
>> Coordination for this will happen on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> mailing list (further information to appear in a mail to that list). If
>> you know of any issues that need to be documented, file them as bugs
>> against the ``release-notes'' pseudo package.
> 
>   Do you know where I can find the current version of the release notes?
> I don't want to file bugs asking for documentation of things that are
> already documented.  Or is the NewInLenny page the staging ground for
> the release notes?

svn://svn.debian.org/svn/ddp/manuals/branches/release-notes/lenny

Cheers

Luk


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Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes

2008-09-01 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello,

On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 11:46 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 08:01:29AM +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
> heard to say:
> > Release notes
> > ~
> > There is still quite a lot of work to be done on the lenny release notes.
> > Coordination for this will happen on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > mailing list (further information to appear in a mail to that list). If
> > you know of any issues that need to be documented, file them as bugs
> > against the ``release-notes'' pseudo package.
> 
>   Do you know where I can find the current version of the release notes?
> I don't want to file bugs asking for documentation of things that are
> already documented.

>  Or is the NewInLenny page the staging ground for the release notes?

Due to license incompatibility, the content of the NewInLenny wiki page
can't be copied to the release notes.

So if you write some text, then you should also send a mail to the
release-notes maintainers (We won't repeat that mistake for Squeeze).

Franklin


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Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes

2008-09-02 Thread Vincent Danjean
Franklin PIAT wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 11:46 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 08:01:29AM +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
>> heard to say:
>>> Release notes
>>> ~
>>> There is still quite a lot of work to be done on the lenny release notes.
>>> Coordination for this will happen on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> mailing list (further information to appear in a mail to that list). If
>>> you know of any issues that need to be documented, file them as bugs
>>> against the ``release-notes'' pseudo package.
>>   Do you know where I can find the current version of the release notes?
>> I don't want to file bugs asking for documentation of things that are
>> already documented.
> 
>>  Or is the NewInLenny page the staging ground for the release notes?
> 
> Due to license incompatibility, the content of the NewInLenny wiki page
> can't be copied to the release notes.

Cannot you rename NewInLenny to NewInLenny-oldlicense and recreate a
NewInLenny page (with a link to NewInLenny-oldlicense ?)
  The new NewInLenny page would have a licence compatible with the
release notes and can be fed up with the content of the current release
notes...

> So if you write some text, then you should also send a mail to the
> release-notes maintainers (We won't repeat that mistake for Squeeze).
> 
> Franklin

  Vincent


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Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes

2008-09-02 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Tue Sep 02 09:52, Vincent Danjean wrote:
> Cannot you rename NewInLenny to NewInLenny-oldlicense and recreate a
> NewInLenny page (with a link to NewInLenny-oldlicense ?)
>   The new NewInLenny page would have a licence compatible with the
> release notes and can be fed up with the content of the current release
> notes...

Or, ask all the contributors to the NewInLenny page if they could agree
to licence their contributions in a compatible fashion (what _are_ the
relevant licences anyway?!)

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Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes

2008-09-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Matthew Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Or, ask all the contributors to the NewInLenny page if they could agree
> to licence their contributions in a compatible fashion (what _are_ the
> relevant licences anyway?!)

Nothing specific, some more information:

http://bugs.debian.org/385797
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/LicencingTerms
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/LicencingTerms/Proposals
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWiki/LicencingTerms/RelicensingStrategy
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2008/debconf8/low/494_Debian_Wiki.ogg
http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2008/debconf8/low/495_Debian_Wiki.ogg

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Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes

2008-09-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Tuesday 02 September 2008 07:54, Franklin PIAT wrote:
> Due to license incompatibility, the content of the NewInLenny wiki page
> can't be copied to the release notes.

I just added this info as well as a link to the releasenotes repo to 
http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny.


regards,
Holger


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[Fwd: Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes]

2008-09-03 Thread Franklin PIAT
Hello,

Regarding the wiki page NewInLenny[1] and the possibility to reuse it's
content in the Release Notes, I'm wondering what's the actual license
that apply to the R.N ?

We would have two option to migrate the wiki page license :
1. Ask each contributor to re-license his contribution under license X.
2. Use Vincent's idea, described below, and use
   [Include(NewInLenny-oldlicense)] to include the old page in the new
   one (so it remains visible). and content can be move from one page
   to the other by it's author

I am quite interested in the first scheme, as it would be a trial for we
can do for the whole wiki.

Franklin

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny

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> From: Vincent Danjean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Debian Developers 
> Franklin PIAT wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 11:46 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> >> On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 08:01:29AM +0200, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >> was heard to say:
> >>> Release notes
> >>> ~
> >>> There is still quite a lot of work to be done on the lenny release notes.
> >>> Coordination for this will happen on the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> mailing list (further information to appear in a mail to that list). If
> >>> you know of any issues that need to be documented, file them as bugs
> >>> against the ``release-notes'' pseudo package.
> >>   Do you know where I can find the current version of the release notes?
> >> I don't want to file bugs asking for documentation of things that are
> >> already documented.
> > 
> >>  Or is the NewInLenny page the staging ground for the release notes?
> > 
> > Due to license incompatibility, the content of the NewInLenny wiki page
> > can't be copied to the release notes.
> 
> Cannot you rename NewInLenny to NewInLenny-oldlicense and recreate a
> NewInLenny page (with a link to NewInLenny-oldlicense ?)
>   The new NewInLenny page would have a licence compatible with the
> release notes and can be fed up with the content of the current release
> notes...
> 
> > So if you write some text, then you should also send a mail to the
> > release-notes maintainers (We won't repeat that mistake for Squeeze).
> > 
> > Franklin
> 
>   Vincent


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Re: [Fwd: Re: Release Update: freeze guidelines, testing, BSP, rc bug fixes]

2008-09-03 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2008-09-03 09:27, Franklin PIAT wrote:
> Regarding the wiki page NewInLenny[1] and the possibility to reuse it's
> content in the Release Notes, I'm wondering what's the actual license
> that apply to the R.N ?

We are currently asking all contributors to agree to GPL2
(unfortunately without the famous "or later" a.k.a. GPL2+).

> I am quite interested in the first scheme, as it would be a trial for we
> can do for the whole wiki.

If somebody does not answer in a given time frame or does not
agree, you still have to remove their contribution.


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