Re: Running daemons without asking for permission on install

1999-09-26 Thread Brian May 
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Which reminds me, it might be nice for Debian to run something akin to a
port scanner locally from cron.daily or something, so that the sysadmin
will notice such problems better. (Optionally, and not reporting ports
that the sysadmin knows are OK.)

How about something like (beware - quick hack):

netstat -a | grep -vE '(kerberos|finger|ftp|pop-3)' 

That will list all connections and active ports, except for those
with kerberos, finger, ftp and pop-3 listed.

I imagine it would be easy to make that more robust, but you should get
the general idea. Perhaps you may only want to include lines with *:* so
that active connections are not counted.
-- 
Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Running daemons without asking for permission on install

1999-09-25 Thread David Bristel 
This is also a very big issue for those who install groups of packages during
the install.  I know that I was recently bitten by this when I chose to install
a number of groups of packages, and didn't realize that the masquerading and
redirecting versions of inetd were installed.  It took some investigation to
figure out what was happening.  

Dave Bristel


On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Lars Wirzenius wrote:

 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 22:01:29 GMT
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 Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  [If] I install a daemon, I want to use it.
 
 However, if you install a daemon by mistake, or without knowing it,
 it would be nice to be alerted to this fact. Such things might happen
 because you didn't know that, say, linuxconf or Gnome run daemons, or
 because the program you want to install requires a daemon to be running.
 I'm not sure if the correct solution to this is to ask a question on
 install, but at least it's better than to do things without warning.
 
 Which reminds me, it might be nice for Debian to run something akin to a
 port scanner locally from cron.daily or something, so that the sysadmin
 will notice such problems better. (Optionally, and not reporting ports
 that the sysadmin knows are OK.)
 
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