Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012, John David Anglin wrote: > >>Since there is no hppa port any longer, shouldn't we close all > >>hppa-specific bug reports? > >>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?status=open;include=subject%3Ahppa > >why? it's still a port. > I am still building unstable packages and reporting bugs for hppa > unstable. sorry for the noise guys -- I guess I got mixed up with what 'discontinued' meant on http://www.debian.org/ports . Now that I scrolled further I see that there are also really 'dead' ones ;-) Cheers, -- Yaroslav O. Halchenko Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences Dartmouth College, 419 Moore Hall, Hinman Box 6207, Hanover, NH 03755 Phone: +1 (603) 646-9834 Fax: +1 (603) 646-1419 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120626043706.gk5...@onerussian.com
Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
On 25-Jun-12, at 7:13 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: On 25.06.2012 19:34, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: Since there is no hppa port any longer, shouldn't we close all hppa-specific bug reports? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?status=open;include=subject%3Ahppa why? it's still a port. I am still building unstable packages and reporting bugs for hppa unstable. Dave -- John David Anglin dave.ang...@bell.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp48ce1c147b66458ecc4d0997...@phx.gbl
Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
On 25.06.2012 19:34, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > Since there is no hppa port any longer, shouldn't we close all > hppa-specific bug reports? > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?status=open;include=subject%3Ahppa why? it's still a port. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe8f08d.1050...@debian.org
Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
Since there is no hppa port any longer, shouldn't we close all hppa-specific bug reports? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?status=open;include=subject%3Ahppa -- Yaroslav O. Halchenko Postdoctoral Fellow, Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences Dartmouth College, 419 Moore Hall, Hinman Box 6207, Hanover, NH 03755 Phone: +1 (603) 646-9834 Fax: +1 (603) 646-1419 WWW: http://www.linkedin.com/in/yarik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120625173417.gj5...@onerussian.com
Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
On 04/10/2011 09:22 PM, Colin Tuckley wrote: >> (Although, now that I think about it, it's probably hard for alpha to be >> considered a viable architecture, unless there is new hardware being >> produced and sold.) > > There needs to be enough reliable hardware available to maintain the > port. Without that the task is impossible. Getting used, old (even fast, like 1 GHz CPUs) hardware is not that hard. But you will have to find a place to host it. -- Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux Developer http://bzed.dehttp://www.debian.org GPG Fingerprints: ECA1 E3F2 8E11 2432 D485 DD95 EB36 171A 6FF9 435F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4da2c94e.1060...@bzed.de
RE: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
Apt-get update on unstable still worked today for the german debian ftp server. If it disappears, I want to have the dump as noted: > > Before we remove the architectures, archives will be taken for anyone > > who wants to take a copy of the dump to use elsewhere. These dumps > > will be made available on request. Uwe - Uwe Schindler H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen http://www.thetaphi.de eMail: u...@thetaphi.de > -Original Message- > From: Witold Baryluk [mailto:bary...@smp.if.uj.edu.pl] > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 8:07 PM > To: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org; debian- > al...@lists.debian.org; debian-h...@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental > > On 04-01 21:55, Mark Hymers wrote: > > Hi, > > > > As mentioned in the recent ftp-team meeting minutes, we're planning to > > remove alpha and hppa from unstable. They were removed from testing > > before the squeeze release and there's no sign that they will be > > release architectures for wheezy. As such, we're planning to remove > > them from unstable and experimental in the next few days. buildd > > support for unstable and experimental will also be ended at that time, > > but will obviously continue for lenny updates / security builds. > > > > Before we remove the architectures, archives will be taken for anyone > > who wants to take a copy of the dump to use elsewhere. These dumps > > will be made available on request. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mark > > > > Mark, > > why nobody answers our questions? > > I today say that alpha disappered from unstable buildd. > > Why is ftp-team acting without any discussion or explanation of their > reasons? Is ignoring debian-alpha and -hppa people is a way this project > works? > > Regards, > Witek > > -- > Witold Baryluk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/000601cbf7c0$80e45420$82acfc60$@thetaphi.de
Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
On 10/04/11 20:04, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > I am a mostly dis-interested outsider for both the alpha and hppa > architectures. I write this to be supportive of the ftpmasters. +1 > It seems to me that the alpha porters have had quite a lot of time to > bring the architecture up to the level of quality that is expected from > Debian ports in the main archive. Agreed, not only that but once they *do* get it back to release quality they need to demonstrate that they have the manpower resources to keep it there. I think that maintaining it properly for at least six months would demonstrate that they have a viable team. > The problem of lack of porter manpower > have affected alpha for much longer than that, of course. Having a > couple of new people promise to do better is not enough Agreed, a sensibly sized working team is required. > (Although, now that I think about it, it's probably hard for alpha to be > considered a viable architecture, unless there is new hardware being > produced and sold.) There needs to be enough reliable hardware available to maintain the port. Without that the task is impossible. Colin -- Colin Tuckley | +44(0)1223 293413 | PGP/GnuPG Key Id Debian Developer | +44(0)7799 143369 | 0x1B3045CE Useless Invention: Particle board tent stakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4da20358.2040...@debian.org
Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
On su, 2011-04-10 at 20:06 +0200, Witold Baryluk wrote: > I today say that alpha disappered from unstable buildd. I am a mostly dis-interested outsider for both the alpha and hppa architectures. I write this to be supportive of the ftpmasters. It seems to me that the alpha porters have had quite a lot of time to bring the architecture up to the level of quality that is expected from Debian ports in the main archive. alpha was dropped from being a squeeze release architecture in October, 2009.[0] That's 17 months ago. The problem of lack of porter manpower have affected alpha for much longer than that, of course. Having a couple of new people promise to do better is not enough, in my opinion: the best of intentions and the most heroic efforts of a very small number of people is not enough, there needs to be enough people involved to keep it as a viable port. [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2009/10/msg3.html Moving alpha out from the main archive does not need to be the end of Debian on alpha, I'm sure. And if the port can show a sustained effort for a sufficiently long time, I'm equally sure the project will happily welcome it back into the main archive for the wheezy release. But that sustained effort should come first, in my humble opinion. (Although, now that I think about it, it's probably hard for alpha to be considered a viable architecture, unless there is new hardware being produced and sold.) -- Blog/wiki/website hosting with ikiwiki (free for free software): http://www.branchable.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1302462271.2441.124.ca...@havelock.liw.fi
Re: alpha and hppa removal from unstable/experimental
On 04-01 21:55, Mark Hymers wrote: > Hi, > > As mentioned in the recent ftp-team meeting minutes, we're planning to > remove alpha and hppa from unstable. They were removed from testing > before the squeeze release and there's no sign that they will be release > architectures for wheezy. As such, we're planning to remove them from > unstable and experimental in the next few days. buildd support for > unstable and experimental will also be ended at that time, but will > obviously continue for lenny updates / security builds. > > Before we remove the architectures, archives will be taken for anyone > who wants to take a copy of the dump to use elsewhere. These dumps will > be made available on request. > > Thanks, > > Mark > Mark, why nobody answers our questions? I today say that alpha disappered from unstable buildd. Why is ftp-team acting without any discussion or explanation of their reasons? Is ignoring debian-alpha and -hppa people is a way this project works? Regards, Witek -- Witold Baryluk signature.asc Description: Digital signature
