Re: debian developer

[Isaac Clerencia]

On Friday, 10 March 2006 15:41, Lars Roland wrote:
> You could subscribe to debian-mentors and start crafting a package.
> Even though Debian has a impressiv amount of packages there are still
> some major ones left (mpich2, pvfs2, trac...).
trac is in

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Re: debian developer

[Mark Walter]

Hi,

> Jump in and start doing something for Debian. Whether that is finding
> fixes for open bugs in our BTS that do not have patches yet, writing
> documentation, translating stuff that needs to be translated, or
> packaging software that needs to be packaged (or help package software
> where the maintainer asks for help), is up to you. You can ask on
> debian-mentors if you need more help (this isn't really a mailinglist
> for beginner-level questions relating to debian development;
> debian-mentors is)
> 
> If you do this well enough, people you cooperate with (your sponsor,
> other translators, etc) will most likely be willing to advocate you.

ok, I understand this is the wrong list and I have now a good one, which
is debian-mentors. There's also a IRC channel so I will cope now on my own.

Thank's for you statement's I was subscribed to debian-devel and I
thought it's the right place to ask the question.

Sorry for being offtopic !

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Re: debian developer

[Christoph Haas]

Hi, Mark...

On Friday 10 March 2006 15:27, Mark Walter wrote:
> I want to step in to be a debian developer.

Great to hear that.

> While processing the new maintainer's guide I need to cross checked
> boxes to apply.
>
> Two of them are not true for me at all and I can't apply as a developer
> :-(
>
> Here are the two point's:
>
> ***
> If you intend to package software, do you have a Debian package in the
> archive through a sponsor? And if you intend to do other things (e.g.
> port Debian to other architectures, help with documentation, Quality
> Assurance or Security), do you have experience in those things and have
> already participated in such activities for Debian?
>
> ***
> Has an existing Debian developer agreed to be an advocate and verify
> your application
>
> Here is my question:
>
> Can anybody help to me to satisfy the demand for the two point's as I'am
> interested to be a debian developer ?

Bear with me but your question sounds to me like "I have not yet 
contributed to Debian but rather have been a user and now want to become a 
DD as soon as possible". If you want to become a Debian Developer it's 
helpful (if not mandatory) that you are already "part of the community" in 
some way. Contributing to Debian doesn't necessarily mean you need to be a 
Debian Developer. You can maintain your own packages through a sponsor, 
provide help on alioth projects, provide patches for documentation, 
provide translations to further languages you may know or proofread 
translations, ... At some point you may want to do the uploads yourself 
(without the help of a sponsor), participate in votings and get access to 
Debian's machine park for testing. Then it's a good time to apply for 
developership. But it's not mandatory for contributions.

The more you already do for Debian the easier it is for you to become a 
Debian Developer. Even if you enter the so called "new maintainer's 
process" you will still need to show that you can e.g. maintain packages 
and have a good understanding of the gears inside. If you already have 
proof of such contributions - great. It will take time one way or the 
other.

The second question about getting an advocate will probably be trivial once 
you work with a few people because they can easily decide that your skills 
are welcome to Debian. The advocate can only be someone who knows you 
(virtually). So you better ask them then.

I still mean that your contribution is mostly welcome. Just that the 
contribution and the fun of contributing itself should perhaps be more the 
center of attention than wearing fancy "I'm a DD" pants. If you get me. :)

Kindly
 Christoph
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Re: debian developer

[Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo]

On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 03:27:23PM +0100, Mark Walter wrote:
> Hi all,

Hello.
 
> I want to step in to be a debian developer.

That's rather question for debian-mentors mailing list.
 
> While processing the new maintainer's guide I need to cross checked
> boxes to apply. 
> 
> Two of them are not true for me at all and I can't apply as a developer :-(
> 
> Here are the two point's:
> 
> ***
> If you intend to package software, do you have a Debian package in the
> archive through a sponsor? And if you intend to do other things (e.g.
> port Debian to other architectures, help with documentation, Quality
> Assurance or Security), do you have experience in those things and have
> already participated in such activities for Debian?
> 
> ***
> Has an existing Debian developer agreed to be an advocate and verify
> your application
> 
> Here is my question:
> 
> Can anybody help to me to satisfy the demand for the two point's as I'am
> interested to be a debian developer ?
> 
> What can I do to arrive the point's mentioned above ?

Point 1.

Find some useful software that isn't already packaged for Debian and
package it. Or adopt some unmaintain one.

You can take a look at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for that.

Then ask on debian-mentors mailing list for upload of it to the archive.

Point 2.

Assuming you'll be doing your job well maybe your sponsor will agree to be
your advocate.

regards
fEnIo

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Re: debian developer

[Lars Roland]

On 3/10/06, Mark Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is my question:
>
> Can anybody help to me to satisfy the demand for the two point's as I'am
> interested to be a debian developer ?

Ahh the the cool factor of having a Debian email address (not that i have one).

>
> What can I do to arrive the point's mentioned above ?
>

You could subscribe to debian-mentors and start crafting a package.
Even though Debian has a impressiv amount of packages there are still
some major ones left (mpich2, pvfs2, trac...).

Also check this article:
http://programming.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/28/1618201 it
has some extended info

Re: debian developer

[Wouter Verhelst]

On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 03:27:23PM +0100, Mark Walter wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I want to step in to be a debian developer.
> 
> While processing the new maintainer's guide I need to cross checked
> boxes to apply. 
> 
> Two of them are not true for me at all and I can't apply as a developer :-(
> 
> Here are the two point's:
> 
> ***
> If you intend to package software, do you have a Debian package in the
> archive through a sponsor? And if you intend to do other things (e.g.
> port Debian to other architectures, help with documentation, Quality
> Assurance or Security), do you have experience in those things and have
> already participated in such activities for Debian?
> 
> ***
> Has an existing Debian developer agreed to be an advocate and verify
> your application
> 
> Here is my question:
> 
> Can anybody help to me to satisfy the demand for the two point's as I'am
> interested to be a debian developer ?
> 
> What can I do to arrive the point's mentioned above ?

Jump in and start doing something for Debian. Whether that is finding
fixes for open bugs in our BTS that do not have patches yet, writing
documentation, translating stuff that needs to be translated, or
packaging software that needs to be packaged (or help package software
where the maintainer asks for help), is up to you. You can ask on
debian-mentors if you need more help (this isn't really a mailinglist
for beginner-level questions relating to debian development;
debian-mentors is)

If you do this well enough, people you cooperate with (your sponsor,
other translators, etc) will most likely be willing to advocate you.

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Re: Debian Developer LDAP

[Gerfried Fuchs]

* Oohara Yuuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-04-15 07:50]:
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:24:44 -0400,
> Mark Bucciarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> (3) is the email gateway used?
> I tried but failed to change my latitude/longitude data.
> None of the following worked.  RTFM instructions welcome.

 RTFM .  From db.debian.org
frontpage -> Documentation -> Mail gateway

> Lat: +0334500., Long: +1303000.

 The , must have been the problem.

> Lat: 33:45:00.000 N Long: 130:30:00.000 E
> ---
> Lat: 33n45. Long: 130e30.
> ---
> Lat: +0334500 Long: +1303000

 Those are simply in wrong format.

> The error message was:
> ==> Message Error: Positions were found, but they are not correctly formed
> Command is not understood. Halted

 The mail gateway should include the above URL to the documentation to
avoid such questions in the future.  Who can add it, please?

 So long!
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Re: Debian Developer LDAP

[Oohara Yuuma]

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:24:44 -0400,
Mark Bucciarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (3) is the email gateway used?
I tried but failed to change my latitude/longitude data.
None of the following worked.  RTFM instructions welcome.

---
Lat: +0334500., Long: +1303000.
---
Lat: 33:45:00.000 N Long: 130:30:00.000 E
---
Lat: 33n45. Long: 130e30.
---
Lat: +0334500 Long: +1303000
---

The error message was:
==> Message Error: Positions were found, but they are not correctly formed
Command is not understood. Halted

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Re: Debian Developer LDAP

[Rene Engelhard]

Hi,

Mark Bucciarelli wrote:
> (2) do people really update their records?  (For example, what 
> percentage of entries were updated last year?  What percentage of 
> entries have not been updated at all for two years?  three years?)

Well, personal information is not that often updated when it doesn't
change :)

> (3) is the email gateway used?

Yes. For some things (password forgotten, ssh keys, DNS CNAMES that's
IIRC the only way...)
 
> (5) if I decide to follow the LDAP route, is there someone here who 
> would be willing to take some time to give me a bit of guidance?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] would be one place; but I assume that they
have more important things to do. But trying cannot hurt ;)

Regards,

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Re: Debian Developer LDAP

[Andreas Metzler]

Mark Bucciarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've volunteered to help build a database of KDE advocates and am 
> starting the design.  A previous kde-promo thread mentioned the 
> Debian LDAP gateway as a possible model to follow.

> I would be interested in any feedback the Debian developers have on 
> this system.  It seems to have a lot of nice functionality, but I'd 
> like to know how it actually get's used.  (For example, it seems 
> xplanet stuff doesn't work right now--no X's on the map, and the 
> coords file is empty.)  

This is reported in the BTS and only broke a short time ago.

> Here's a few questions that I came up with.  I'm interested in any and 
> all feedback, so don't feel limited by this set. :)

> (1) what do you find most useful?
[...]

The e-mail gateway.
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