Re: debiandoc-sgml issues (html being lynx/links unfriendly)

2002-04-22 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit:

  It might be nice if you could just mass-NMU (maybe to DELAYED/1-day) 
  with Build-Depends updated.
 
 Agree.  I was hoping you, the pbuilder dude, may volunteer :)

Hmm... if it's not automatic, things are a bit difficult.
I'm not insightful into the realms of TeX...


There needs to be some way of really automating the documentation builds.


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junichi


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Re: debiandoc-sgml issues (html being lynx/links unfriendly)

2002-04-22 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 07:40:19PM -0500, Ardo van Rangelrooij wrote:
 [debiandoc-sgml] now builds PDF and PS output in a bi-stable loop
 (so various Makefiles can now be cleaned up and bug #134701 is closed).

I've no idea about code or what you mean by bi-stable, so excuse me if I'm
asking a completely clueless question. Adam Di Carlo told me that the
debiandoc2latex* scripts used to run LaTeX a fixed number of times and that
that was the reason why he did all those ugly things in his makefiles.

This is the problem that is now fixed?

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Re: debiandoc-sgml issues (html being lynx/links unfriendly)

2002-04-21 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit:

 Since there seems to be another new debiandoc-sgml coming, it may take
 few more days before new unstable version (1.1.66?) appears into testing.
 
 Some coordinated rebuild activity may be a good idea for document created
 with known problematic version (1.1.59).

It might be nice if you could just mass-NMU (maybe to DELAYED/1-day) 
with Build-Depends updated.

Coordination is pretty difficult.


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junichi

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Re: debiandoc-sgml issues (html being lynx/links unfriendly)

2002-04-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
Kon'nichiwa Umekawa-san (Hi, Mr. Umekawa),

On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 03:42:17PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote:
 Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate scripsit:
 
  Since there seems to be another new debiandoc-sgml coming, it may take
  few more days before new unstable version (1.1.66?) appears into testing.
  
  Some coordinated rebuild activity may be a good idea for document created
  with known problematic version (1.1.59).
 
 It might be nice if you could just mass-NMU (maybe to DELAYED/1-day) 
 with Build-Depends updated.

Agree.  I was hoping you, the pbuilder dude, may volunteer :)

 Coordination is pretty difficult.
...
I do not disagree on this.  So my multi-post was meant to be
more-or-less reminders for the developers or to get your attention :)

Auto-build is not a simple task for the document if it contains building
some PS or PDF files.  This is because these document style requires
TeX things and TeX things requires hand configurations to get them
work for all the languages.  For example, think about hyphenation.  It
is not enabled for all the pertinent languages. So Build-Depends is not
sufficient.

This is just a mere observation by a non-developer.  I may be wrong.

Osamu

PS: My Debian reference in DDP CVS/WEB needs to be packaged.  Any
volunteer?  I am not Debian developer. 
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Re: debiandoc-sgml issues (html being lynx/links unfriendly)

2002-04-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 10:59:07PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 Some coordinated rebuild activity may be a good idea for document created
 with known problematic version (1.1.59).

So far I've only heard about the broken installation documentation in
disks-* directory of the FTP archive, and seen it in the Policy (3.5.6.1).

The former requires either a boot-floppies rebuild, which would be yucky,
or someone to run 'make docs' and send the new stuff to the FTP admins.

The latter requires a debian-policy upload, which shouldn't be much of a
problem since it doesn't change the manual text... Cc:ed -policy so Julian
or Manoj are aware.

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Re: debiandoc-sgml issues (html being lynx/links unfriendly)

2002-04-21 Thread Ari Makela
On Sun, Apr 21, 2002 at 12:07:42AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:

 PS: My Debian reference in DDP CVS/WEB needs to be packaged.  Any
 volunteer?  I am not Debian developer. 

As I am translating it to Finnish so it is quite natural for me to package 
it. Of course, one requirement is that my application will be accepted. My
application has been, for some reason, freezed for a long time. However,
I was yesterday contacted by a Debian developer about this and maybe
this will happen soon.

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Re: debiandoc-sgml issues (html being lynx/links unfriendly)

2002-04-21 Thread Ardo van Rangelrooij
Hi,

I just uploaded a new version of debiandoc-sgml which has its urgency set to
high to speed up things.  It now builds PDF and PS output in a bi-stable loop
(so various Makefiles can now be cleaned up and bug #134701 is closed).

Thanks,
Ardo

Josip Rodin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 20, 2002 at 10:59:07PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
  Some coordinated rebuild activity may be a good idea for document created
  with known problematic version (1.1.59).
 
 So far I've only heard about the broken installation documentation in
 disks-* directory of the FTP archive, and seen it in the Policy (3.5.6.1).
 
 The former requires either a boot-floppies rebuild, which would be yucky,
 or someone to run 'make docs' and send the new stuff to the FTP admins.
 
 The latter requires a debian-policy upload, which shouldn't be much of a
 problem since it doesn't change the manual text... Cc:ed -policy so Julian
 or Manoj are aware.
 
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