Re: ifupdown2 by Cumulus Networks

2014-08-05 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 23:51:04 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:

> Cumulus Networks is using Debian as a base and has produced "ifupdown2",
> a "compatible" replacement for ifupdown written in Python:
>  https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/tree/master/ifupdown2

I guess that's the one covered in this talk at DebConf:
https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/6/new-network-interface-manager-for-debian-ifupdown2/
 

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Re: ifupdown2 by Cumulus Networks

2014-08-05 Thread Vincent Bernat
 ❦  6 août 2014 00:34 +0200, gregor herrmann  :

>> Cumulus Networks is using Debian as a base and has produced "ifupdown2",
>> a "compatible" replacement for ifupdown written in Python:
>>  https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/tree/master/ifupdown2
>
> I guess that's the one covered in this talk at DebConf:
> https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/6/new-network-interface-manager-for-debian-ifupdown2/

Let's wait this talk then! :)
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Re: ifupdown2 by Cumulus Networks

2014-08-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi!

On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 23:51:04 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> Cumulus Networks is using Debian as a base and has produced "ifupdown2",
> a "compatible" replacement for ifupdown written in Python:
>  https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/tree/master/ifupdown2
> 
> They maintain a state of what is done and apply changes incrementally to
> avoid any disruption. This is quite interesting. Has anyone worked with
> them on that?
> 
> I know the main author. May I propose him to package it in Debian?

Hmm, given your wording I'm wondering if the ifupdown maintainer (CCed)
is aware of what seems to be a “plan” (given the project name) to
supercede that package?

(Otherwise it might have been more corteous to use a different project
name?)

Thanks,
Guillem


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Re: ifupdown2 by Cumulus Networks

2014-08-05 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello,

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 00:58:35 +0200
Guillem Jover  wrote:

> On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 23:51:04 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> > Cumulus Networks is using Debian as a base and has produced
> > "ifupdown2", a "compatible" replacement for ifupdown written in
> > Python:
> > https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/tree/master/ifupdown2
> > 
> > They maintain a state of what is done and apply changes
> > incrementally to avoid any disruption. This is quite interesting.
> > Has anyone worked with them on that?
> > 
> > I know the main author. May I propose him to package it in Debian?

> Hmm, given your wording I'm wondering if the ifupdown maintainer
> (CCed) is aware of what seems to be a “plan” (given the project name)
> to supercede that package?

I first heard of them when they proposed a talk for DebConf, but they
have never tried to contact me, which seemed a bit strange to me. What
I don't understand about this project is the use of Python here: isn't
really suitable for this? I was hesitating to use smaller scripting
languages and tried to keep the C code as tiny as possible... And now
Python. Do we not care about separate /usr any more?

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Re: ifupdown2 by Cumulus Networks

2014-08-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 06, Andrew Shadura  wrote:

> I first heard of them when they proposed a talk for DebConf, but they
> have never tried to contact me, which seemed a bit strange to me. What
> I don't understand about this project is the use of Python here: isn't
> really suitable for this? I was hesitating to use smaller scripting
> languages and tried to keep the C code as tiny as possible... And now
> Python. Do we not care about separate /usr any more?
We do not, but neverthless I still do not believe that it would be 
appropriate to make python have important priority.

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Re: ifupdown2 by Cumulus Networks

2014-08-07 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On 08/06/2014 03:21 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> Hey!
> 
> Cumulus Networks is using Debian as a base and has produced "ifupdown2",
> a "compatible" replacement for ifupdown written in Python:
>  https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/tree/master/ifupdown2
> 
> They maintain a state of what is done and apply changes incrementally to
> avoid any disruption. This is quite interesting. Has anyone worked with
> them on that?
> 
> I know the main author. May I propose him to package it in Debian?


The entire repository has just 4 commits.

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Re: ifupdown2 by Cumulus Networks

2014-08-07 Thread Vincent Bernat
 ❦  7 août 2014 17:49 +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf  :

>> Cumulus Networks is using Debian as a base and has produced "ifupdown2",
>> a "compatible" replacement for ifupdown written in Python:
>>  https://github.com/CumulusNetworks/ifupdown2/tree/master/ifupdown2
>> 
>> They maintain a state of what is done and apply changes incrementally to
>> avoid any disruption. This is quite interesting. Has anyone worked with
>> them on that?
>> 
>> I know the main author. May I propose him to package it in Debian?
>
>
> The entire repository has just 4 commits.

Yes. This is common for an internal project being published for the
first time. Either, they don't want to clean the internal git history or
git wasn't used during the development.
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