Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Matthew Bailey wrote: > You didn't miss any mail, I had mailed Ian M. to tell him about this > but I just got 5 bounced mail messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmm.. Could you forward the bounced messages, with headers, so I can determine what the problem was (or is)?
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > > I apologize for my gaffe. Obviously I should pay better attention to my > mail, since it seems I glossed over the announcement of the change in > policy. You didn't miss any mail, I had mailed Ian M. to tell him about this but I just got 5 bounced mail messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh well shit happens. Ian M. if you get this everything that I had mailed you has already been said on the devel list.. I was tring to get your opinion before I did such. -- Matthew S. Bailey 107 Emmons Hall Central Michigan University Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.)
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Stephen Early wrote: > > I think ncurses wins an award for "most packages from one source archive." > ...soon to be trumped by X, which is currently generating 24 packages > from one source archive. Forgot about that one --- the whole group come from just the one source package, don't they? I concede. Mike. -- "I'm a dinosaur. Somebody's digging my bones."
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > I think ncurses wins an award for "most packages from one source archive." ...soon to be trumped by X, which is currently generating 24 packages from one source archive. Steve
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > ncurses-base-1.9.8a-1.deb should have a debian.preinst to kill > the link etc/terminfo -> ../usr/lib/terminfo provided by base-0.93.6. > Or it is intended that these fall into /usr/lib/terminfo? No, it isn't. They are supposed to be totally disconnected. Thanks for pointing this out --- in the course of testing I had of course zapped my old ncurses a while ago. -2 should be out soon. > And how to elegantly get rid of the huge /usr/lib/terminfo database > w/o installing and purging? Well, you could first 'dpkg --purge ncurses-runtime'. I don't know offhand what all is dependent upon ncurses-runtime at this point. I realized that both ncurses-base and ncurses-term should conflict with ncurses-runtime, and that ncursesX.X-dev should conflict with ncurses-developer. This _might_ make for some hairy dependency issues, but I don't think so --- nothing terribly big depends on either of those right now. Mike. -- "I'm a dinosaur. Somebody's digging my bones."
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > Minor doc-bug in ncurses-1.9.8a/debian.README: > ncurses21 should read ncurses3.0 Blast, I thought I had parameterized that _everywhere_. Oh, well. It's fixed. > I hope ncurses3.0 will be a stabile ABI, since a lot of packages depends > on it. That's why I went ahead and made the move. ESR is saying that he doesn't expect anything but bugfixes from here on out. Mike. -- "I'm a dinosaur. Somebody's digging my bones."
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Matthew Bailey wrote: > There is NO problem with uploads. The fact that I receive 10-5 mails a > day to ftpadmin about corrupt files in private/project/Incoming made me > opt for this method. This should be for INCOMING use only. the files will > be available as soon as the ftp site maintainer moves them into the > public trees. I don't even care if all he does is move them to a > different tree like Arrived or some such. but Incoming is just that > Incoming and should not be used for downloading. Oh. Well, I (and a number of other people) missed the announcement of this change in policy. Since it was well-known that ftp.debian.org had just been refurbished, I, at least, had assumed it was merely an oversight and was trying to compensate for it. I apologize for my gaffe. Obviously I should pay better attention to my mail, since it seems I glossed over the announcement of the change in policy. > Please do not upload to ftp.pixar.com unless there is an absolute need. I'm not trying to bypass the COC here or anything, just trying to work around what I and several others perceived as a "glitch". Mike. -- "I'm a dinosaur. Somebody's digging my bones."
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Bill Mitchell wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > > > And how to elegantly get rid of the huge /usr/lib/terminfo database > > w/o installing and purging? > > Good point. This sounds like a serious user-upgrade issue. This looks > like a dpkg-guru question. > On second thought -- not really. The old ncurses-developer, and ncurses-runtime are not automatically superceded. I could remove developer. dpkg stopped me on removing runtime, because dependencies to dialog and miscutils. I compliled a new miscutils and kicked dialog. Then I removed ncurses-runtime. Now /use/lib/terminfo is no more. Looks pretty cool. OTOH, I should go to bed ... mfg Rolf Rossius
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > And how to elegantly get rid of the huge /usr/lib/terminfo database > w/o installing and purging? Good point. This sounds like a serious user-upgrade issue. This looks like a dpkg-guru question.
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > I think ncurses wins an award for "most packages from one source archive." I'm not sure about that. I've had several instances of multiple rapid-fire uploads due to upload glitches and due to my own boneheaded errors 8^(.
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > > Since ftp.debian.org seems to still be having problems with people > downloading new files, I'm putting a copy of ncurses-1.9.8a in > ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/bruce/Incoming, since a handful of people have > contacted me since yesterday to ask if I could send them copies directly. > > I think ncurses wins an award for "most packages from one source archive." Whoaaa now! there is a definite reason for this There is NO problem with uploads. The fact that I receive 10-5 mails a day to ftpadmin about corrupt files in private/project/Incoming made me opt for this method. This should be for INCOMING use only. the files will be available as soon as the ftp site maintainer moves them into the public trees. I don't even care if all he does is move them to a different tree like Arrived or some such. but Incoming is just that Incoming and should not be used for downloading. This has also come from the few pieces of software that have been uploaded to the directory that were far from free. So I am sorry some of you don't like this but this is the way it will have to be. Bruce doesn't allow for downloads from his Incoming tree either the last I knew. He had to move them out to a directory called Debian instead. Please do not upload to ftp.pixar.com unless there is an absolute need. -- Matthew S. Bailey 107 Emmons Hall Central Michigan University Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.)
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
Another problem: ncurses-base-1.9.8a-1.deb should have a debian.preinst to kill the link etc/terminfo -> ../usr/lib/terminfo provided by base-0.93.6. Or it is intended that these fall into /usr/lib/terminfo? And how to elegantly get rid of the huge /usr/lib/terminfo database w/o installing and purging? mfg Rolf Rossius
Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > Since ftp.debian.org seems to still be having problems with people > downloading new files, I'm putting a copy of ncurses-1.9.8a in > ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/bruce/Incoming, since a handful of people have ^^ You mean ftp.pixar.com > contacted me since yesterday to ask if I could send them copies directly. > I think ncurses wins an award for "most packages from one source archive." Granted. Minor doc-bug in ncurses-1.9.8a/debian.README: ncurses21 should read ncurses3.0 I hope ncurses3.0 will be a stabile ABI, since a lot of packages depends on it. mfg Rolf Rossius
