Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
Brendan == Brendan O'Dea [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brendan Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some Brendan modules which were previously stand-alone, any package Brendan declaring a versioned[0] dependency on: Brendan libcgi-perl, Brendan needs to either have the version for that dependency Brendan removed, or just to depend on perl (= 5.8.0). This happens not to be the case. Perl does not come with the modules included in libcgi-perl (libcgi-pm-perl may be another matter) Filed an critical bug against perl-modules ;-) manoj -- Look before you leap. Samuel Butler Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:44:00AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those packages that were already NMU'd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~grep-available -F depends perlapi-5.6 -s package Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency on: libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl, libtime-hires-perl, libstorable-perl, libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl, libi18n-langtags-perl, liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl, libnet-ping-perl, libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl needs to either have the version for that dependency removed, or just to depend on perl (= 5.8.0). If those package are still going to be shipped separately (because they're going to evolve outside the perl core), then they should stay in the archive and perl must add Provides for them. Hence, the user can still choose to use either those in the perl core, or the sperate ones (maybe more recent at some point). -- Jérôme Marant
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 09:33:51AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:44:00AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency on: libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl, libtime-hires-perl, libstorable-perl, libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl, libi18n-langtags-perl, liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl, libnet-ping-perl, libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl needs to either have the version for that dependency removed, or just to depend on perl (= 5.8.0). If those package are still going to be shipped separately (because they're going to evolve outside the perl core), then they should stay in the archive and perl must add Provides for them. Hence, the user can still choose to use either those in the perl core, or the sperate ones (maybe more recent at some point). You're missing the point. The problem is that some packages have *versioned* dependencies on those packages: smokeping for example depends on libdigest-md5-perl (= 2.13-2). While perl does have a provide for libdigest-md5-perl, it's not considered as there is no version associated. So the dependencies on that (and other packages) need to be changed. As far as retaining the stand-alone versions of [now] uninstallable perl modules in the archive goes, is there any point? They can be re-packaged if/when the need arises. --bod
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 05:57:50PM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: If those package are still going to be shipped separately (because they're going to evolve outside the perl core), then they should stay in the archive and perl must add Provides for them. Hence, the user can still choose to use either those in the perl core, or the sperate ones (maybe more recent at some point). You're missing the point. No, I added some information. The problem is that some packages have *versioned* dependencies on those packages: smokeping for example depends on libdigest-md5-perl (= 2.13-2). While perl does have a provide for libdigest-md5-perl, it's not considered as there is no version associated. So the dependencies on that (and other packages) need to be changed. I didn't say it doesn't have to be changed. As far as retaining the stand-alone versions of [now] uninstallable perl modules in the archive goes, is there any point? They can be re-packaged if/when the need arises. It depends on the will of the maintainers of those packages. Those modules are likely to have newer versions in the upcoming months, maybe users will be interested in newer versions? Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
At 11:06 am, Sunday, August 25 2002, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh mumbled: On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Brendan O'Dea wrote: Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency on: libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl, libtime-hires-perl, libstorable-perl, libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl, libi18n-langtags-perl, liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl, libnet-ping-perl, libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl needs to either have the version for that dependency removed, or just to depend on perl (= 5.8.0). litian and linda checks for these, please! If they depend on those packages and perl (= 5.8.0)? -- Steve Culus irrelevent. overfiend will purge you.
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Steve Kowalik wrote: If they depend on those packages and perl (= 5.8.0)? If they have any sort of versioned dependency on provides (we should make a list of those), actually. But since this is a non-local check, and hard to write, I guess tailoring it to detect dependencies on old perl, and on stuff the new perl provides would do. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those packages that were already NMU'd. Great. I'll take care of modperl and apache-perl today. -- Daniel Jacobowitz MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
Brendan O'Dea wrote: On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those packages that were already NMU'd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~grep-available -F depends perlapi-5.6 -s package Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency on: libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl, libtime-hires-perl, libstorable-perl, libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl, libi18n-langtags-perl, liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl, libnet-ping-perl, libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl needs to either have the version for that dependency removed, or just to depend on perl (= 5.8.0). The packages that do so are: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~for mod in libdigest-md5-perl libmime-base64-perl libnet-perl libtime-hires-perl libstorable-perl libattribute-handlers-perl libcgi-perl libi18n-langtags-perl liblocale-maketext-perl libmath-bigint-perl libnet-ping-perl libtest-harness-perl libtest-simple-perl; do echo; echo $mod:; echo; grep-available -F depends $mod ( -s package,maintainer ; done libdigest-md5-perl: package: libmd5-perl maintainer: Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: axkit maintainer: Ardo van Rangelrooij [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: smokeping maintainer: Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] libmime-base64-perl: package: sympa maintainer: Jerome Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: libmime-perl maintainer: Stephen Zander [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: catalog maintainer: Igor Genibel [EMAIL PROTECTED] libnet-perl: package: libastro-simbad-perl maintainer: Stephen Quinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: libastro-ads-perl maintainer: Stephen Quinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: libastro-dss-perl maintainer: Stephen Quinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: libastro-catalog-perl maintainer: Stephen Quinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: libnet-snpp-perl maintainer: Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: libnet-tftp-perl maintainer: Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: libwww-perl maintainer: Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: libnet-ph-perl maintainer: Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] libtime-hires-perl: package: razor maintainer: Robert van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: remstats maintainer: Robert Jordens [EMAIL PROTECTED] package: filterproxy maintainer: Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] libstorable-perl: package: libipc-shareable-perl maintainer: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] libattribute-handlers-perl: libcgi-perl: package: catalog maintainer: Igor Genibel [EMAIL PROTECTED] libi18n-langtags-perl: liblocale-maketext-perl: libmath-bigint-perl: package: libmath-numbercruncher-perl maintainer: Dirk Eddelbuettel [EMAIL PROTECTED] libnet-ping-perl: libtest-harness-perl: libtest-simple-perl: Also, libwww-perl still needs to be updated for perl 5.8. My NMU wasn't uploaded out of the staging area, since I had to turn off regression tests. There may be a new upstream release that fixes that. -- see shy jo
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
Le Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:44:00AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea écrivait:
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can
make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which
still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those
packages that were already NMU'd.
What happened to libdbi-perl ?
Joey NMUed it in the pool, but it appears to not have been installed.
Since I rebuilt my libdbd-{pg,mysql}-perl package with the libdbi for
perl 5.8, my packages are currently uninstallable ... I'm willing to do
another libdbi-perl NMU if needed, I just want to be sure it's really
needed.
Cheers,
--
Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/
Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
Raphael Hertzog wrote: What happened to libdbi-perl ? Joey NMUed it in the pool, but it appears to not have been installed. Maybe a newer MU came out in between or something. I don't have the NMU anymore, but IIRC it was a simple rebuild. -- see shy jo
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
Maybe a newer MU came out in between or something. I don't have the NMU anymore, but IIRC it was a simple rebuild. Yes, two newer MU's actually. The latter was a rebuild for 5.8; unfortunately the build-deps weren't updated, so it was autobuilt inconsistently.
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
Le Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 01:51:18PM -0400, Clint Adams écrivait: Maybe a newer MU came out in between or something. I don't have the NMU anymore, but IIRC it was a simple rebuild. Yes, two newer MU's actually. The latter was a rebuild for 5.8; unfortunately the build-deps weren't updated, so it was autobuilt inconsistently. Yes, I took the time to check myself in between. 1.28-4 is completely correct now and will be installed in a few hours. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/ Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 07:39:54PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Le Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 06:44:00AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea ?crivait:
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can
make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which
still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those
packages that were already NMU'd.
What happened to libdbi-perl ?
Joey NMUed it in the pool, but it appears to not have been installed.
Since I rebuilt my libdbd-{pg,mysql}-perl package with the libdbi for
while the build-depends on perl were updated, the build-depends for the
new libdbi were not. You need to update all build-depends that might be
affected by the transition.
--
Ryan Murray, Debian Developer ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED])
The opinions expressed here are my own.
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Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
Le Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 01:33:36PM -0700, Ryan Murray écrivait: while the build-depends on perl were updated, the build-depends for the new libdbi were not. You need to update all build-depends that might be They were in 1.28-1.1 (NMU by Joey), but during the transition the maintainer uploaded 1.18-2 compiled against the old perl 5.6 ... so Joey's NMU got lost. Then the maintainer uploaded -3 compiled against perl 5.8 but without the build-dep, he finally added the build dep in -4. Everything is ok now. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/ Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 02:49:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: perl 5.8 will enter unstable at the next dinstall run. Before it can make testing though, we have to update the following 84 packages which still depend on perlapi-5.6.*. This list should take into account those packages that were already NMU'd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~grep-available -F depends perlapi-5.6 -s package Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency on: libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl, libtime-hires-perl, libstorable-perl, libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl, libi18n-langtags-perl, liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl, libnet-ping-perl, libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl needs to either have the version for that dependency removed, or just to depend on perl (= 5.8.0). [0] The 5.8.0 perl packages do provide these so un-versioned dependencies are fine, dpkg/apt just don't support versioned provides. --bod
Re: perl 5.6 dependent packages
On Sun, 25 Aug 2002, Brendan O'Dea wrote: Note that in addition, since perl 5.8.0 includes some modules which were previously stand-alone, any package declaring a versioned[0] dependency on: libdigest-md5-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libnet-perl, libtime-hires-perl, libstorable-perl, libattribute-handlers-perl, libcgi-perl, libi18n-langtags-perl, liblocale-maketext-perl, libmath-bigint-perl, libnet-ping-perl, libtest-harness-perl, libtest-simple-perl needs to either have the version for that dependency removed, or just to depend on perl (= 5.8.0). litian and linda checks for these, please! -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh
