Re: sarge and DST

2007-03-06 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
> irrelevant... the problem is really in the difference between:
if that is a problem at all since zdumps are the same for 2007 on sarge
and sid...

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Re: sarge and DST

2007-03-06 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
irrelevant... the problem is really in the difference between:


,-
| $> ssh $sarge TZ=US/Eastern date  -d '"+168 hours"'
| Wed Mar 14 00:35:51 EDT 2007
| *$> ssh $sid TZ=US/Eastern date  -d '"+168 hours"'
| Wed Mar 14 00:35:56 EDT 2007
|
| *$> ssh $sarge TZ=US/Eastern date  -d '"+7 days"'
| Tue Mar 13 23:36:15 EDT 2007
| *$> ssh $sid TZ=US/Eastern date  -d '"+7 days"'
| Wed Mar 14 00:36:19 EDT 2007
`---

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Re: sarge and DST

2007-03-06 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
> Which time zone is "HST"?
> $ TZ=EST5EDT date
> Tue Mar  6 21:49:44 EST 2007
> $ TZ=EST5EDT date -d '+168 hours'
> Tue Mar 13 22:49:40 EDT 2007
> Looks OK to me.  (If you say +N days that ends up at the same time of
> day local time.)

also as Luca Filipozzi pointed out to me sarge has proper table of
discontinuities, so everything seems to converge to weird behavior of
date -d '+N days'

,---
| *$> ssh $sarge zdump -v US/Pacific | grep 2007
| US/Pacific  Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 PST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
| US/Pacific  Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 PDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
| US/Pacific  Sun Nov  4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 PDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
| US/Pacific  Sun Nov  4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 PST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
|
| $> ssh $sid zdump -v US/Pacific | grep 2007
| US/Pacific  Sun Mar 11 09:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 01:59:59 2007 PST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
| US/Pacific  Sun Mar 11 10:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 11 03:00:00 2007 PDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
| US/Pacific  Sun Nov  4 08:59:59 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:59:59 2007 PDT 
isdst=1 gmtoff=-25200
| US/Pacific  Sun Nov  4 09:00:00 2007 UTC = Sun Nov  4 01:00:00 2007 PST 
isdst=0 gmtoff=-28800
`---



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Re: sarge and DST

2007-03-06 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes:
> Hawaii ('Pacific/Honolulu)

IIRC Hawaii does not observe DST (DST makes even less sense in the tropics
than it does here).
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Re: sarge and DST

2007-03-06 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/06/07 20:51, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 21:19 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please correct me (I hope someone will correct me) but sarge is not new
>> DST rules ready like [1] discusses or am I missing smth?
>>
>> up to date sarge box I have 
>>
>> ,--
>> | zaza[0] ~>date
>> | Tue Mar  6 16:12:26 HST 2007
>> | *zaza[0] ~>date -d "+7 days"
>> | Tue Mar 13 16:12:34 HST 2007
>> `---
> 
> Which time zone is "HST"?

Hawaii ('Pacific/Honolulu)

> 
> $ TZ=EST5EDT date
> Tue Mar  6 21:49:44 EST 2007
> $ TZ=EST5EDT date -d '+168 hours'
> Tue Mar 13 22:49:40 EDT 2007
> 
> Looks OK to me.  (If you say +N days that ends up at the same time of
> day local time.)
> 
> Ben.
> 

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Re: sarge and DST

2007-03-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 21:19 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Please correct me (I hope someone will correct me) but sarge is not new
> DST rules ready like [1] discusses or am I missing smth?
> 
> up to date sarge box I have 
> 
> ,--
> | zaza[0] ~>date
> | Tue Mar  6 16:12:26 HST 2007
> | *zaza[0] ~>date -d "+7 days"
> | Tue Mar 13 16:12:34 HST 2007
> `---

Which time zone is "HST"?

$ TZ=EST5EDT date
Tue Mar  6 21:49:44 EST 2007
$ TZ=EST5EDT date -d '+168 hours'
Tue Mar 13 22:49:40 EDT 2007

Looks OK to me.  (If you say +N days that ends up at the same time of
day local time.)

Ben.

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Re: sarge and DST

2007-03-06 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I feel silly ;-)
that box was missing proposed-updates (had just security updates).

even so - the picture is the same - no DST update seems to be taking
place in the US states (eg TZ=US/Pacific)

,
| zaza[0] ~>date -d "+7 days"
| Tue Mar 13 16:28:29 HST 2007
| *zaza[0] ~>date
| Tue Mar  6 16:28:32 HST 2007
| zaza[0] ~>apt-cache policy libc6
| libc6:
|   Installed: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6
|   Candidate: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6
|   Version Table:
|  *** 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6 0
| 991 ftp://ftp.debian.org sarge-proposed-updates/main Packages
| 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
|  2.3.2.ds1-22sarge5 0
| 990 ftp://ftp.debian.org sarge/main Packages
`---


On Tue, 06 Mar 2007, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

> Dear All,

> Please correct me (I hope someone will correct me) but sarge is not new
> DST rules ready like [1] discusses or am I missing smth?

> up to date sarge box I have 

> ,--
> | zaza[0] ~>date
> | Tue Mar  6 16:12:26 HST 2007
> | *zaza[0] ~>date -d "+7 days"
> | Tue Mar 13 16:12:34 HST 2007
> `---

> ,
> | zaza[0] ~>apt-cache policy libc6
> | libc6:
> |   Installed: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge5
> |   Candidate: 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge5
> |   Version Table:
> |  *** 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge5 0
> | 990 ftp://ftp.debian.org sarge/main Packages
> | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> `---

> http://lwn.net/Articles/224794/
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