Re: tenative ITP linux-wlan-ng; soliciting advice
On Monday 19 August 2002 05:33 pm, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Ian Eure [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 19 August 2002 02:39 pm, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hedderly) writes: No. the hostap dirver is excellent. Written by Jean Tour... something. He works for SSH Corp. google for linux prism2 driver. It does pcmcia and pci brilliantly but doesnt support usb yet. works with prism2/2.5/3 cards - and most orinoco cards too. supports kysmet. Nope, you're confusing authors with the in-kernel orinoco driver, which Jean Tourrilhes (who works for HP) has maintained at various points, though the current real maintainer is David Gibson, IIRC. Apparently the 2.4.19 orinoco includes prism2/PCI (aka prism2.5, I believe) support. Don't know about the prism3---is that 802.11a? Prism2 and Prism2.5 are not the same thing. My understanding, perhaps flawed, is that Prism2.5 is basically a Prism2 with a direct PCI interface---no pcmcia baggage, etc. The Linksys WPM11, for instance. My only experience with Prism2.5 is with a newer Linksys WPC11 PCMCIA card, which didn't work with my stock 2.4.x non-kernel pcmcia setup. Regardless, the orinoco driver in the 2.4.19 kernel supports them. From Configure.help: Prism 2.5 PCI 802.11b adaptor support CONFIG_PCI_HERMES Enable support for PCI and mini-PCI 802.11b wireless NICs based on the Prism 2.5 chipset. These are true PCI cards, not the 802.11b PCMCIA cards bundled with PCI-PCMCIA adaptors which are also common. Some of the built-in wireless adaptors in laptops are of this variety. Doesn't this require kernel PCMCIA support? I haven't used the driver in the kernel, but the Orinoco driver shipped with pcmcia-source (pcmcia-cs 3.1.33) only supports Prism2 cards. I strongly recommend anyone with a Prism chipset use linux-wlan-ng, since pcmcia-cs's Orinoco driver sucks pretty hard. To each their own---I have used the orinoco driver that comes with the kernel from day one with no particular problems---and it supports the standard (at least in-kernel-standard) interfaces for configuration, etc., whereas wlan-ng does its own thing. Well, I've used the default Orinoco driver in pcmcia-cs, but the linux-wlan-ng driver just performs better for me. Also, the pcmcia-cs driver constantly complains about Error -110 writing BAP for me. -- Komm auf meine Sonnenbarke!
Re: tenative ITP linux-wlan-ng; soliciting advice
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 08:33:08PM -0400, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: My understanding, perhaps flawed, is that Prism2.5 is basically a Prism2 with a direct PCI interface---no pcmcia baggage, etc. The Linksys WPM11, for instance. My pcmcia card (TrendWare TEW-201PC) announces itself as a Prism2.5, soy I think that's not the only difference. To each their own---I have used the orinoco driver that comes with the kernel from day one with no particular problems---and it supports the standard (at least in-kernel-standard) interfaces for configuration, etc., whereas wlan-ng does its own thing. I'm running Epitest's HostAP driver, both on my desktop (base station) and laptop, and it runs very well (to no surprise, as this driver is developed only for Prism2/2.5/3). It provides a reasonably large subset of the standard Wireless Extensions.
Re: tenative ITP linux-wlan-ng; soliciting advice
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 12:18:31AM -0700, Ian Eure wrote: Prism 2.5 PCI 802.11b adaptor support CONFIG_PCI_HERMES Enable support for PCI and mini-PCI 802.11b wireless NICs based on the Prism 2.5 chipset. These are true PCI cards, not the 802.11b PCMCIA cards bundled with PCI-PCMCIA adaptors which are also common. Some of the built-in wireless adaptors in laptops are of this variety. Doesn't this require kernel PCMCIA support? If the card is a true PCI one, it doesn't. I own a TEW-203PI (TrendWare) and it's a full PCI card. It doesn't requiere PCMCIA support.
Re: tenative ITP linux-wlan-ng; soliciting advice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hedderly) writes: No. the hostap dirver is excellent. Written by Jean Tour... something. He works for SSH Corp. google for linux prism2 driver. It does pcmcia and pci brilliantly but doesnt support usb yet. works with prism2/2.5/3 cards - and most orinoco cards too. supports kysmet. Nope, you're confusing authors with the in-kernel orinoco driver, which Jean Tourrilhes (who works for HP) has maintained at various points, though the current real maintainer is David Gibson, IIRC. Apparently the 2.4.19 orinoco includes prism2/PCI (aka prism2.5, I believe) support. Don't know about the prism3---is that 802.11a? Mike.
Re: tenative ITP linux-wlan-ng; soliciting advice
On Monday 19 August 2002 02:39 pm, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hedderly) writes: No. the hostap dirver is excellent. Written by Jean Tour... something. He works for SSH Corp. google for linux prism2 driver. It does pcmcia and pci brilliantly but doesnt support usb yet. works with prism2/2.5/3 cards - and most orinoco cards too. supports kysmet. Nope, you're confusing authors with the in-kernel orinoco driver, which Jean Tourrilhes (who works for HP) has maintained at various points, though the current real maintainer is David Gibson, IIRC. Apparently the 2.4.19 orinoco includes prism2/PCI (aka prism2.5, I believe) support. Don't know about the prism3---is that 802.11a? Prism2 and Prism2.5 are not the same thing. I haven't used the driver in the kernel, but the Orinoco driver shipped with pcmcia-source (pcmcia-cs 3.1.33) only supports Prism2 cards. I strongly recommend anyone with a Prism chipset use linux-wlan-ng, since pcmcia-cs's Orinoco driver sucks pretty hard. -- Komm auf meine Sonnenbarke!
Re: tenative ITP linux-wlan-ng; soliciting advice
Ian Eure [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 19 August 2002 02:39 pm, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hedderly) writes: No. the hostap dirver is excellent. Written by Jean Tour... something. He works for SSH Corp. google for linux prism2 driver. It does pcmcia and pci brilliantly but doesnt support usb yet. works with prism2/2.5/3 cards - and most orinoco cards too. supports kysmet. Nope, you're confusing authors with the in-kernel orinoco driver, which Jean Tourrilhes (who works for HP) has maintained at various points, though the current real maintainer is David Gibson, IIRC. Apparently the 2.4.19 orinoco includes prism2/PCI (aka prism2.5, I believe) support. Don't know about the prism3---is that 802.11a? Prism2 and Prism2.5 are not the same thing. My understanding, perhaps flawed, is that Prism2.5 is basically a Prism2 with a direct PCI interface---no pcmcia baggage, etc. The Linksys WPM11, for instance. Regardless, the orinoco driver in the 2.4.19 kernel supports them. From Configure.help: Prism 2.5 PCI 802.11b adaptor support CONFIG_PCI_HERMES Enable support for PCI and mini-PCI 802.11b wireless NICs based on the Prism 2.5 chipset. These are true PCI cards, not the 802.11b PCMCIA cards bundled with PCI-PCMCIA adaptors which are also common. Some of the built-in wireless adaptors in laptops are of this variety. I haven't used the driver in the kernel, but the Orinoco driver shipped with pcmcia-source (pcmcia-cs 3.1.33) only supports Prism2 cards. I strongly recommend anyone with a Prism chipset use linux-wlan-ng, since pcmcia-cs's Orinoco driver sucks pretty hard. To each their own---I have used the orinoco driver that comes with the kernel from day one with no particular problems---and it supports the standard (at least in-kernel-standard) interfaces for configuration, etc., whereas wlan-ng does its own thing. Mike.
Re: tenative ITP linux-wlan-ng; soliciting advice
On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 05:39:56PM -0400, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hedderly) writes: No. the hostap dirver is excellent. Written by Jean Tour... something. He works for SSH Corp. google for linux prism2 driver. It does pcmcia and pci brilliantly but doesnt support usb yet. works with prism2/2.5/3 cards - and most orinoco cards too. supports kysmet. Nope, you're confusing authors with the in-kernel orinoco driver, which Jean Tourrilhes (who works for HP) has maintained at various points, though the current real maintainer is David Gibson, IIRC. He was almost right: Author: Jouni Malinen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] For HostAP, that is. Which I still recommend. -- Daniel Jacobowitz MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer
Re: tenative ITP linux-wlan-ng; soliciting advice
On Fri, Jul 26, 2002 at 03:17:21AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Peter Hicks wrote: well, I would hate to dissuade you from packaging the linux-wlan drivers, but I have no trouble using prism2, orinoco, or cisco aironet cards with the stock debian 2.4.18 kernel. Both my lucent card and my smc 2632 use the hermes/orinoco_cs drivers. I tested a cisco card last monday and it worked fine, but I don't have it around to check which drivers it used. As far as I know wlan-ng is the only game in town for pci prism2 cards. And I've done the necessary work to integrate it with /etc/network/interfaces already: No. the hostap dirver is excellent. Written by Jean Tour... something. He works for SSH Corp. google for linux prism2 driver. It does pcmcia and pci brilliantly but doesnt support usb yet. works with prism2/2.5/3 cards - and most orinoco cards too. supports kysmet. -- Paul (Started packaging modules for it a month ago then went away for a month... must finish that) iface wlan0 inet static address 192.168.1.5 gateway 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 # Should be either ad-hoc or managed. Used managed if you have an AP. wireless_mode ad_hoc # Leave this unset to associate with any access point. Set to pick an # access point, or in ad-hoc mode. wireless_essid wortroot # A name for your machine. Required. wireless_nick dragon # For ad-hoc mode, you must specify a channel. wireless_channel 1 # # # To enable WEP, uncomment the next line. # wireless_enc on # To set a WEP key, either use a string, which will be converted to a key: # wlan_ng_priv_genstr foo # (Using the specified key length.) # wlan_ng_priv_key128 false # Or set keys explicitly. # wlan_ng_key0 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx # wlan_ng_key1 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx # wlan_ng_key2 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx # wlan_ng_key3 xx:xx:xx:xx:xx # If you set a key, remember to make the file mode 600! # # In managed mode, set to sharedkey if a shared key is required. # wlan_ng_authtype opensystem # If you are serving as an AP, uncommnent this to require WEP for all STAs. # wlan_ng_exclude_unencrypted true # # Some extra ah-hoc mode settings: # Beacon interval (in Kus) # wlan_ng_bcint 100 # Rates for mgmtctl frames (in 500Kb/s) # wlan_ng_basicrates 2 4 # Supported rates in BSS (in 500Kb/s) # wlan_ng_oprates 2 4 11 22 # # You can set arbitrary MIB items with this directive, separated by # whitespace. Each will then be set. # wlan_ng_user_mibs p2CnfRoamingMode=1 (It also does a really impressive job of getting ad-hoc link quality stats right automatically. Despite the huge complexity, I think I like it..) -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
