Re: there is /usr/lib64 symlink but no /usr/local/lib64
On 2011-02-12 17:44:27 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: How do we square that with the FHS, then? The FHS says: If directories /libqual or /usr/libqual exist, the equivalent directories must also exist in /usr/local. That seems to require /usr/local/lib64 even if we *don't* include /usr/lib64, right? Should we amend policy to take this exception to the FHS? Please open a bug report on policy if you think we should. What's important is consistency. The tools under Debian don't expect libraries to be in **/lib64, but in **/lib. /me goes back to making lib64 obsolete ;) Yes! :) -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110215233512.gk15...@prunille.vinc17.org
Re: there is /usr/lib64 symlink but no /usr/local/lib64
]] Steve Langasek | That seems to require /usr/local/lib64 even if we *don't* include | /usr/lib64, right? Should we amend policy to take this exception to the | FHS? Please open a bug report on policy if you think we should. I've just opened such a bug. | /me goes back to making lib64 obsolete ;) Yay! :-) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87lj1ktkpm@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
Re: there is /usr/lib64 symlink but no /usr/local/lib64
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 07:02:33PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Yaroslav Halchenko | please do not slap me too hard (only so that I feel your warm carrying | touch): | is there a rationale for: on amd64 Debian systems having | /lib64 - /lib Yes, it's required by the ABI, unfortunately. | /usr/lib64 - /usr/lib Not really, apart from some broken software that will look for stuff there and be confused if it doesn't exist. I think we should drop it. How do we square that with the FHS, then? The FHS says: If directories /libqual or /usr/libqual exist, the equivalent directories must also exist in /usr/local. That seems to require /usr/local/lib64 even if we *don't* include /usr/lib64, right? Should we amend policy to take this exception to the FHS? Please open a bug report on policy if you think we should. /me goes back to making lib64 obsolete ;) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: there is /usr/lib64 symlink but no /usr/local/lib64
On 2011-02-04 19:02:33 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Yaroslav Halchenko | /usr/lib64 - /usr/lib Not really, apart from some broken software that will look for stuff there and be confused if it doesn't exist. I think we should drop it. Thanks would be a good thing. Otherwise users should either avoid upstream GCC's or add similar symbolic links for every directory (e.g. $HOME/lib64 - $HOME/lib if the user installs software in his home directory). FYI, here's the problem I had under Debian because of this symbolic link: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2010-11/msg00341.html (and followups) -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110211125238.gg15...@prunille.vinc17.org
Re: there is /usr/lib64 symlink but no /usr/local/lib64
Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com writes: please do not slap me too hard (only so that I feel your warm carrying touch): is there a rationale for: on amd64 Debian systems having /lib64 - /lib /usr/lib64 - /usr/lib but no similar one for /usr/local/lib64, so that directory /usr/local/lib64 gets created if anyone (with enough rights) does 'make install' pointing there; and we do not include /usr/local/lib64 into ldconfig path (by default), so those libraries 'get lost' aren't we diverging from FHS: If directories /libqual or /usr/libqual exist, the equivalent directories must also exist in /usr/local. ? No reason and yes. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipx0tacz.fsf@frosties.localnet
Re: there is /usr/lib64 symlink but no /usr/local/lib64
I guess then it might be sensible to get /usr/local/lib64 - /usr/local/lib . ok -- lets see what libc6 maintainers think about that http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=612000 On Fri, 04 Feb 2011, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: aren't we diverging from FHS: If directories /libqual or /usr/libqual exist, the equivalent directories must also exist in /usr/local. ? No reason and yes. -- =--= Keep in touch www.onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko www.ohloh.net/accounts/yarikoptic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110204151548.gz8...@onerussian.com
Re: there is /usr/lib64 symlink but no /usr/local/lib64
]] Yaroslav Halchenko | please do not slap me too hard (only so that I feel your warm carrying | touch): | | is there a rationale for: on amd64 Debian systems having | | /lib64 - /lib Yes, it's required by the ABI, unfortunately. | /usr/lib64 - /usr/lib Not really, apart from some broken software that will look for stuff there and be confused if it doesn't exist. I think we should drop it. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87oc6rk79i@qurzaw.varnish-software.com
