Re: Re^2: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system
> "Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christian> If someone wants to do this with me, just drop me a Christian> note. I'm just waiting for volunteers... I would like to help, but I don't think I've got the skills it would require right now. I'll try and take the time to look over what you people do with it, and learn from your example. Right now, I really need to just read books and code, more than anything. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re^2: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system
On 5 Jan 1998, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > > "Marco" == Marco Budde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Marco> We could write a converter :)? > > I'd rather see a unified interface for that sort of thing than a > kludgey converter converter scheme. Once written, doc-base will be the interface for all online documentations. (Not only registering the manuals to menus, but also converting between different documentation formats, compressing documentation, etc.) Though we definitely need some time discussing the new documentation policy we could perhaps start working on the menu registry with doc-base to get some experience in this area. If someone wants to do this with me, just drop me a note. I'm just waiting for volunteers... Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Don't know Perl? [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA http://www.perl.com http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re^2: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system
> "Marco" == Marco Budde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marco> We could write a converter :)? I'd rather see a unified interface for that sort of thing than a kludgey converter converter scheme. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re^2: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system
On 4 Jan 1998, Marco Budde wrote: > Am 03.01.98 schrieb schwarz # monet.m.isar.de ... > > Moin Christian! > > CS> We are aware of this problem. The different menu systems (menu, dwww, > CS> dhelp, etc.) all have their advantages and disadvantages so I guess they > CS> will all stay around for a while. > > If you know a disadvantage of dhelp please send me an email. I'm really > interessed in good ideas. > > CS> The solution is to provide a unique interface where all packages can > CS> register their documentation files. This interface programm will than > CS> support the different menu systems, depending on which are installed. This > > But is that necessary? We could write a simple .dhelp to .dwww converter > or dwww can use the /var/lib/dhelp/dbase database. That's no problem. I > think, we should use this help system in Debian 2.0. Some other > distributions already use such systems (for example SuSE). You should probably not refer to SUSE here. They are know for their quick and _dirty_ solutions ;-) > I've added dhelp support in debstd last night. It's really no problem to > add dhelp support to your packages. Please don't get me wrong. I have nothing against packages supporting dhelp. However, dhelp is not our "official" system by now (nor is dwww) so we can't force everyone to use it by policy. > CS> I'm currently working on a draft for this interface. It looks like we're > CS> going to implement that together with a new "Documentation Policy" for > CS> Debian 2.1. > > Why should we develop another system? We have a working system: dhelp. If > we need new features, I can add them. We need another system anyways to convert between different documentation formats on demand. Since every online documentation has to be registered to that system, we shouldn't we do the "menu" registration through the same system? Everything else looks like doing the same work a few times... I promise that we'll start discussing and implement the new doc-policy and all this when "hamm" is out of the door. Thanks, Chris -- Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Debian has a logo![EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the logo PGP-fp: 8F 61 EB 6D CF 23 CA D7 34 05 14 5C C8 DC 22 BA pages at http://fatman.mathematik.tu-muenchen.de/~schwarz/debian-logo/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re^2: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system
Am 03.01.98 schrieb schwarz # monet.m.isar.de ... Moin Christian! CS> We are aware of this problem. The different menu systems (menu, dwww, CS> dhelp, etc.) all have their advantages and disadvantages so I guess they CS> will all stay around for a while. If you know a disadvantage of dhelp please send me an email. I'm really interessed in good ideas. CS> The solution is to provide a unique interface where all packages can CS> register their documentation files. This interface programm will than CS> support the different menu systems, depending on which are installed. This But is that necessary? We could write a simple .dhelp to .dwww converter or dwww can use the /var/lib/dhelp/dbase database. That's no problem. I think, we should use this help system in Debian 2.0. Some other distributions already use such systems (for example SuSE). I've added dhelp support in debstd last night. It's really no problem to add dhelp support to your packages. CS> I'm currently working on a draft for this interface. It looks like we're CS> going to implement that together with a new "Documentation Policy" for CS> Debian 2.1. Why should we develop another system? We have a working system: dhelp. If we need new features, I can add them. cu, Marco -- Uni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fido: 2:240/5202.15 Mailbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.tu-harburg.de/~semb2204/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re^2: dhelp 0.2 - a online help system
Am 01.01.98 schrieb fog # perosa.alpcom.it ... Moin [EMAIL PROTECTED] f> I like it but... Fine :). f> 1) How about dwww? (Yes, I know dwww needs a web server...) On my notebook dwww is very slow when your're accessing documents. And building the index produces a very high load on this system. Third the index of dwww is never uptodate. f> 3) The policy says the preferred doc format is HTML (fine) but f> it says nothing about how to access it. Any ideas before we poor f> developer have to write a dozen of different conf files to support f> all that new help systems? (menu entries, .dwww-index, .dhelp, etc...) We could write a converter :)? I would suggest that we add dhelp and dwww support to the debstd tool. cu, Marco -- Uni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fido: 2:240/5202.15 Mailbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.tu-harburg.de/~semb2204/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
