Re: Re^4: Status of Debian Policy
On Mon, Jun 23, 1997 at 02:56:37PM +0200, Milan Zamazal wrote: > I can see no reason for *dropping* info. My dislike for info is for the same reasons as my dislike for emacs; the command set is huge and not at all intuitive. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science & computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://hamish.home.ml.org/ (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 48% The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. --Bohr -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re^4: Status of Debian Policy
> "MB" == Marco Budde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MZ: I don't know any good browser for HTML, that's the main MZ: problem of HTML documentation. MB: Your're kidding ;-)? There're several really great HTML MB: browsers like netscape, lynx etc. No. Problems with netscape: - It's non-free. - It's buggy. - It's big. - It can't run on text console. - It has only very limited searching and navigation facilities. (Netscape is crippelware IMHO.) Problems with HTML/lynx for any user: - Limited possibilities of handling gzip files (typing xxx.html doesn't find xxx.html.gz) => problems with links (may be solvable by CGI skript => overhead on my notebook with only 8~MB RAM). - Limited searching facilities (general problem of HTML). - No indices, quick menu selection (see Emacs info documentation). - No highlighting/coloring? (I'm not sure.) Problems with HTML/lynx for Emacs users (they're many I think, so don't forget them, please): - How to do cut & past easily. - Incompatible key bindings. - No direct access to documentation (like word-help). - Yet another window/console. (w3-el is not solution -- it's very slow.) Etc. I can see no reason for *dropping* info. Milan Zamazal -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re^4: Status of Debian Policy
On Jun 22, Chris Lawrence wrote > On Jun 22, Mark Eichin wrote > > I don't think he's kidding. Lynx is *awful* for searching (it doesn't > > even have a keystroke for "same pattern, next occurance"...) > > Eh? 'n' seems to do a pretty good job. Seems like it searches just fine to > me :-) > As of current documentation, you can search only current .html file. This is not very usefull. Lynx ( on non-gzipped docs) is much slower then info ( on gzipped). -- RiÄardas Äepas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re^4: Status of Debian Policy
On Jun 22, Mark Eichin wrote > I don't think he's kidding. Lynx is *awful* for searching (it doesn't > even have a keystroke for "same pattern, next occurance"...) Eh? 'n' seems to do a pretty good job. Seems like it searches just fine to me :-) Chris -- |Chris Lawrence| My home page: | |<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| http://www.clark.net/pub/lawrencc/| | | | | Amiga A4000/040 and |Are you tired of politics as usual?| | Linux/m68k 2.1.29 | http://www.lp.org/| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re^4: Status of Debian Policy
> Your're kidding ;-)? There're several really great HTML browsers like > netscape, lynx etc. And you should remember that for example KDE will use I don't think he's kidding. Lynx is *awful* for searching (it doesn't even have a keystroke for "same pattern, next occurance"...) Netscape, well, is netscape :-) Even though I practically *live* in emacs, I'll still pop out to the "info" program because it's faster at searching, and C-s "does the right thing"... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re^4: Status of Debian Policy
Am 21.06.97 schrieb edd # rosebud.sps.queensu.ca ... Moin Dirk! DE> But they get html via the dwww package! Which gives them _more_ DE> documentation then there is in html only. But this requires a www server! Not a good idea for slow systems like my notebook. And the result doesn't look great. DE> Seconded. Nobody answered my mail from yesterday which showed that the DE> doc-linux package will take up over 5 MB (instead of 1.6 MB) for the html DE> stuff. You could compress the HTML pages. But this is maybe a problem for some browsers. DE> No way. IMHO, we should add a Policy Guideline stating that html should be DE> in a seperate package [1] and that info should be shipped as usual. I for No. Then we should info and html in seperate packages. And the policy says that HTML should be the Debian documentation format. cu, Marco -- Uni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fido: 2:240/5202.15 Mailbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.tu-harburg.de/~semb2204/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re^4: Status of Debian Policy
Am 20.06.97 schrieb pdm # informatics.muni.cz ... Moin Milan! MZ> There is one good info browser: GNU Emacs. On the other side I don't MZ> know any good browser for HTML, that's the main problem of HTML MZ> documentation. Your're kidding ;-)? There're several really great HTML browsers like netscape, lynx etc. And you should remember that for example KDE will use HTML as help format. MZ> really don't know why to waste my limited disk space for (mostly MZ> uncompressed!) HTML documents, when (from my point of view) better MZ> format is available. We could compress the HTML documents. But that would require a www server. cu, Marco -- Uni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fido: 2:240/5202.15 Mailbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.tu-harburg.de/~semb2204/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re^4: Status of Debian Policy
Am 20.06.97 schrieb schwarz # monet.m.isar.de ... Moin Christian! CS> Just unpack all .tar.gz files in the same directory and use the file CS> "HOWTO-INDEX-3.html" as "index.html". It contains an overview over all CS> available HOWTOs and mini-HOWTOs and hyperlinks to them. Oh no, that's not a good idea. We've have produced a nice script for doc-linux-de. The output look's much better. cu, Marco -- Uni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fido: 2:240/5202.15 Mailbox: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.tu-harburg.de/~semb2204/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
