Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
On 2020/04/20 21:45, Thomas Goirand wrote: > When talking about the south hemisphere, I always found it confusing to > talk about summer and winter... What your recommendation? Only use month > names? Well, I live in the Southern hemisphere. It's winter here from June until the end of August. Don't you think it would be confusing to many people in the world if I used terms like "during this winter" in reports? In a global community, it's better to avoid regional terms to describe a period of time, even if that covers a very large region or percentage of contributors. Otherwise it's possible to cause some confusion or to make some percentage of people feel less included. And I 100% understand that it wouldn't be intentional because that's just how people tend to talk (especially in the US and in Europe), but I do tend to think that months is just better all round. Some people like to talk about quarters (where Q1 could be Jan-March etc), but again some people count quarters based on when financial years start in their country (some companies I work for start Q1 in March) so I'd even avoid that and stick with months since that's the same everywhere. -Jonathan -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org ⠈⠳⣄ Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.
Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
On 2020-04-20 21:45:27 +0200 (+0200), Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 4/20/20 4:19 PM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > > Em 18/04/2020 15:38, Sam Hartman escreveu: > > > Tl;DR: This is a summary of discussion held during the summer and fall > > > of 2019 surrounding Git packaging in Debian. > > > > I would like to remember we are not a north hemisphere community, so, > > please, don't say "summer and fall" because here on the south, it's not > > the same from you :-) > > When talking about the south hemisphere, I always found it confusing to > talk about summer and winter... What your recommendation? Only use month > names? He could also have phrased it "latter half of 2019," or "2019 third and fourth quarters," or even simply "last year" (the topic at hand didn't *really* warrant any more specific time frame than that to begin with). This is a which habit of I've needed to cure myself in recent decades too, so I totally empathize. It's hard to remember to avoid referring to global events relative to the seasons in which I experienced them, and that for others on the planet it was not the same seasons they were experiencing. These days, I have my editor treat names of seasons as a red flag when I'm reviewing what I've written, so that I hopefully don't forget. -- Jeremy Stanley signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
Hi, Em 20/04/2020 16:45, Thomas Goirand escreveu: > > When talking about the south hemisphere, I always found it confusing to > talk about summer and winter... What your recommendation? Only use month > names? yes. Best regards, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls) Curitiba - Brasil Debian Developer Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres Site: http://www.phls.com.br GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
On 4/20/20 4:19 PM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > Hi Sam, > > Em 18/04/2020 15:38, Sam Hartman escreveu: >> >> >> Tl;DR: This is a summary of discussion held during the summer and fall >> of 2019 surrounding Git packaging in Debian. > I would like to remember we are not a north hemisphere community, so, > please, don't say "summer and fall" because here on the south, it's not > the same from you :-) > > best regards, When talking about the south hemisphere, I always found it confusing to talk about summer and winter... What your recommendation? Only use month names? Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)
Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes: Wouter> Hi Sam, Thanks for following up on this. Wouter> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 02:38:04PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: >> * We had a discussion of using native packages [2]. Wouter> I wanted to read up on this a bit more, but your footnote is Wouter> missing. What was that meant to point to? I don't think it's missing, it's just a backref to the first couple paragraphs in a long message: [3]: https://lists.debian.org/tslo909kqlx@suchdamage.org
Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
Hi Sam, Em 18/04/2020 15:38, Sam Hartman escreveu: > > > Tl;DR: This is a summary of discussion held during the summer and fall > of 2019 surrounding Git packaging in Debian. I would like to remember we are not a north hemisphere community, so, please, don't say "summer and fall" because here on the south, it's not the same from you :-) best regards, -- Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls) Curitiba - Brasil Debian Developer Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres Site: http://www.phls.com.br GNU/Linux user: 228719 GPG ID: 0443C450 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
Hi Sam, Thanks for following up on this. On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 02:38:04PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > * We had a discussion of using native packages [2]. I wanted to read up on this a bit more, but your footnote is missing. What was that meant to point to? Thanks, -- Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-devel, Freenode, 2004-09-22
Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
> "gregor" == gregor herrmann writes: gregor> On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 14:38:04 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: >> Recommendation for Teams >> It is not possible to grant the debian group access to all >> packages in a group at once. However, if a team wishes, they may >> grant push access to the debian group on a package-by-package >> basis. gregor> This has changed in the meantime. gregor> The feature has been addedd to Gitlab in version 12.7.: gregor> https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2020/01/22/gitlab-12-7-released/#share-group-access-with-another-group gregor> Salsa has been updated to 12.7.1 on 27 January, and the gregor> feature in the web interface to "invite" a group (with a gregor> pulldown of existing groups) is there (and is already used gregor> by the Perl Team). Wow, that's cool! Thanks for letting us know. --Sam
Re: Recommendations around Git Packaging in Debian
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 14:38:04 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Recommendation for Teams > > It is not possible to grant the debian group access to all packages in a > group at once. However, if a team wishes, they may grant push access to > the debian group on a package-by-package basis. This has changed in the meantime. The feature has been addedd to Gitlab in version 12.7.: https://about.gitlab.com/releases/2020/01/22/gitlab-12-7-released/#share-group-access-with-another-group Salsa has been updated to 12.7.1 on 27 January, and the feature in the web interface to "invite" a group (with a pulldown of existing groups) is there (and is already used by the Perl Team). Cheers, gregor -- .''`. https://info.comodo.priv.at -- Debian Developer https://www.debian.org : :' : OpenPGP fingerprint D1E1 316E 93A7 60A8 104D 85FA BB3A 6801 8649 AA06 `. `' Member VIBE!AT & SPI Inc. -- Supporter Free Software Foundation Europe `- NP: Joan Baez: The Boxer signature.asc Description: Digital Signature
