Re: Resignation and orphan list
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:38:11 -0600, Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 03:23:08PM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote: Branden Robinson, the DPL, is aware of this organizational failure. But he has done nothing effective to repair it. He has suggested that another DD, Jeroen van Wolffelaar, has the authority to make keyring changes -- an odd situation, given the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias, but no matter -- but Mr. van Wolffelaar has made no more progress than Mr. Troup has: that is to say, none. I'm sorry to hear that you think resigning is the only option. Considering that James' reluctance to do the work he has volunteered to do is a recurring issue in the Debian project, and that this issue has not yet been addressed by the new DPL who was elected in the hope that he would try solving some of our most pressing issues, I can understand Chip's train of thought. It is, however, really a pity. Please try to prevent things like this from happening again. It is a shame to see people quit because other people do not do their work. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | http://www.zugschlus.de/ Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fon: *49 621 72739834
Re: Resignation and orphan list
On 11/11/05, Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that James' reluctance to do the work he has volunteered to do is a recurring issue in the Debian project, and that this issue has not yet been addressed by the new DPL who was elected in the hope that he would try solving some of our most pressing issues, I can understand Chip's train of thought. It is, however, really a pity. Please try to prevent things like this from happening again. It is a shame to see people quit because other people do not do their work. I think this is not the only case of 'issues' with someone not doing the work he has volunteered to do. Aren't there guidelines/policies in Debian on how to deal with such issues?
Re: Resignation and orphan list
[Chip Salzenberg] I see no point in trying to force my way (back) into a project that shows no interest in allowing me to keep participating. Therefore, I hereby resign from the Debian Project. Please, do not do this. The project is to large and fuzzy to have any interest, but there are several developers and members of the project who have interest in fixing the flaws and problems within the Debian project and I am one of these. Packing up and leaving just because a few vital bottlenecks haven't been dealt with in Debian is not a solution. If the keyring maintainer is too busy to do updates in a timely manner, we need to reinforce that part of the project by putting more people on the task. I hope the DPL team is able to put some focus on this, to solve it quickly, unless James Troup find assistants with more time himself. Your report is not the first one regarding slow keyring updates, so I know you are not alone here. We need to work together to solve the problems in Debian. Leaving in anger do not help much. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Resignation and orphan list
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 15:23 -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote: Over the past five weeks And guess how long will take to get your account removed. -- David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.damog.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | GPG: C671257D Este no es un capricho, es un corazón sincero: Nada más.
Re: Resignation and orphan list
David Moreno Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 15:23 -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote: Over the past five weeks And guess how long will take to get your account removed. Hmm... Doesn't a resignation require a message signed with a key on the keyring? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resignation and orphan list
Having lost my access to my old GPG key, I followed project procedure for creating and validating a new one. The final step is a signed request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That request was sent on October 3. However, my new key is still not on the keyring. James Troup (elmo) is the only human behind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Over the past five weeks, Mr. Troup has found lots of time to participate in Ubuntu development, as evidenced by his continued activity on the #ubunto-devel IRC channel. However, despite many requests by mail and IRC, he has not found five minutes to update the keyring with my new key. Branden Robinson, the DPL, is aware of this organizational failure. But he has done nothing effective to repair it. He has suggested that another DD, Jeroen van Wolffelaar, has the authority to make keyring changes -- an odd situation, given the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias, but no matter -- but Mr. van Wolffelaar has made no more progress than Mr. Troup has: that is to say, none. I see no point in trying to force my way (back) into a project that shows no interest in allowing me to keep participating. Therefore, I hereby resign from the Debian Project. My resignation orphans the following packages: deliver libclass-factory-perl libclass-inner-perl libcss-tiny-perl libextutils-cbuilder-perl libextutils-parsexs-perl libhttp-server-simple-perl liblist-moreutils-perl libmail-spf-query-perl libmodule-signature-perl libnet-cidr-lite-perl libnet-ftpserver-perl libpadwalker-perl libppi-html-perl libppi-perl libppi-xs-perl libproc-background-perl libstring-koremutake-perl libsys-hostname-long-perl libterm-size-perl libyaml-perl -- Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Resignation and orphan list
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 03:23:08PM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote: I see no point in trying to force my way (back) into a project that shows no interest in allowing me to keep participating. Therefore, I hereby resign from the Debian Project. That's a pity, imho. My resignation orphans the following packages: libppi-html-perl libppi-perl libppi-xs-perl libterm-size-perl libyaml-perl I'd like to adopt those. Regards, Flo -- BOFH excuse #68: only available on a need to know basis signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Resignation and orphan list
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 03:23:08PM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote: I see no point in trying to force my way (back) into a project that shows no interest in allowing me to keep participating. Therefore, I hereby resign from the Debian Project. Why are you assimilating the project to an handful of individual ? There are around 1000 developers out there. At the very least I am sure you would find several of them willing to sponsor your upload. Cheers, -- Bill. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Imagine a large red swirl here. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Resignation and orphan list
Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no point in trying to force my way (back) into a project that shows no interest in allowing me to keep participating. Therefore, I hereby resign from the Debian Project. Please, don't do that. I agree we have problem inside of project but we need to work together to fix them. Resign from it doesn't help us! I also offer myself to sponsor any uploads that you need in case and then help you to keep your packages in good shape! -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 5906116 GNU/Linux User: 239058 GPG ID: 49A5F855 Home Page: http://www.freedom.ind.br/otavio - Microsoft gives you Windows ... Linux gives you the whole house. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Resignation and orphan list
On Thu, Nov 10, 2005 at 03:23:08PM -0800, Chip Salzenberg wrote: Branden Robinson, the DPL, is aware of this organizational failure. But he has done nothing effective to repair it. He has suggested that another DD, Jeroen van Wolffelaar, has the authority to make keyring changes -- an odd situation, given the [EMAIL PROTECTED] alias, but no matter -- but Mr. van Wolffelaar has made no more progress than Mr. Troup has: that is to say, none. I'm sorry to hear that you think resigning is the only option. I don't actually have anything to do with keyring-maint, Branden just wasn't sure how to deal with your inquiry and asked me if I could help in some way. --Jeroen -- Jeroen van Wolffelaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
