Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems

1997-12-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
I just can't understand this. I'm the maintainer of libgtk, the GIMP
toolkit, which is the widget set for The GIMP and Gnome and other nice
X programs.

Ever since gtk+971109, however, I've been running into a problem that
nobody who isn't running Debian has been running into.

libgtk *compiles* fine, but when I run a program that uses it, the
fields where you enter text into only display bizarre characters --
which change from version to version. For instance, when trying to get
gtk+971201 to work, I only got blank characters when typing. When
trying gtk+971208, I only got capital Os with umlauts. When trying the
latest gtk+, 0.99.0, I only get capital As with umlauts. I tried the
latest version from their CVS repositories and only get lower-case
'x's. 

Other Debian folks have run into this when compiling libgtk, and this
has happened to me now on *three* separate Debian-running computers,
so I don't think it's a hardware problem.

I'm 100 percent up-to-date with hamm. I've tried libc 2.0.5c. I've
tried 2.0.6pre3. I've tried 2.0.6pre4. I've tried re-working my
debian/rules (which worked fine with gtk+971109) to use the make
install provided in the gtk+ Makefile along with debhelper instead of
my semi-kluged bash-package-style moving files into separate
debian/tmp-blah directories.

Is it just me?

Can anyone else try compiling with the .dsc/.diff.gz/.orig.tar.gz at
http://everybody.got.net/~che/gtk/ for me, and see if I'm just nuts?

I've been struggling with this for *weeks* now.

Here's some related version numbers of packages, if it matters:

ii  gcc 2.7.2.3-3  The GNU C compiler.
ii  ldso1.9.6-2The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilit
ii  libc6   2.0.5c-0.1 The GNU C library version 2 (run-time files)
ii  libc6-dev   2.0.5c-0.1 The GNU C library version 2 (development fil
ii  xlib6g  3.3.1-2Shared libraries required by X clients
ii  xlib6g-dev  3.3.1-2Include files and libraries for X client dev

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Re: Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems

1997-12-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
A quick followup: Someone on the GIMP IRC network recently reported
the *exact* same problem with certain gtk versions. 

But they're running SuSE 4.4.1, very tweaked.

Now I don't think the problem is Debian-specific. (I had hoped it
wasn't :)

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Re: Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems

1997-12-15 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On 15 Dec 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote:

 libgtk *compiles* fine, but when I run a program that uses it, the
 fields where you enter text into only display bizarre characters --
 which change from version to version. For instance, when trying to get
 gtk+971201 to work, I only got blank characters when typing. When trying
 gtk+971208, I only got capital Os with umlauts. When trying the latest
 gtk+, 0.99.0, I only get capital As with umlauts. I tried the latest
 version from their CVS repositories and only get lower-case 'x's.

I gave up on 971208... funny thing is I also got Ö's.

 Other Debian folks have run into this when compiling libgtk, and this
 has happened to me now on *three* separate Debian-running computers,
 so I don't think it's a hardware problem.

Not it's definitely not. I thought it could be the extension to get
iso-8859-1 characters. I tryed every combination available on the
configure script, but no luck.

 I'm 100 percent up-to-date with hamm. I've tried libc 2.0.5c. I've
 tried 2.0.6pre3. I've tried 2.0.6pre4. I've tried re-working my
 debian/rules (which worked fine with gtk+971109) to use the make
 install provided in the gtk+ Makefile along with debhelper instead of
 my semi-kluged bash-package-style moving files into separate
 debian/tmp-blah directories.

I even compiled and installed it straight from the distribution...

 Can anyone else try compiling with the .dsc/.diff.gz/.orig.tar.gz at
 http://everybody.got.net/~che/gtk/ for me, and see if I'm just nuts?
 
 I've been struggling with this for *weeks* now.

I didn't try that hard... but I got the same problems. I tried just after
you pointed out the problem when I asked in debian-user. The last
known-to-work version was somewhere arround late november, I can't recall
which one. I hoped I could find time the last weekend to go thru the diffs
between those two versions, but they are not trivial. In the office next
door, a guy has a much hated (by me -- open mindness and all ;) RH box, I
think it is 4.2. I was asked him to compile the thing and see what happens
(to check which and what library is the problem against), but he's a
little paranoid and won't do it. 

I'll see if I can get something tonight.

Can you ask in the gtk list, where it seems to work for most people
according to you, which libraries and what versions are they using? (a
listing from */lib and /etc/ld.conf would help, I think)

later,

Marcelo


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Re: Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems

1997-12-15 Thread bruce
It doesn't happen on my laptop running Debian 1.3 or my SGI running IRIX.
I bet it's a GLIBC 2.0 interaction.

Bruce


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