Re: Transfer Maintainership From MIA Maintainer

2006-07-03 Thread Martin Schulze
Jason Self wrote:
 The listed maintainers for the Webmin package
 (http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin) and the associated
 packages like webmin-core, Usermin, etc. are MIA. They are not fixing
 bugs or responding anymore.

The package has been removed from etch and sid, alias testing and
unstable.  If nobody steps in and proves that they can maintain the
package there won't be a webmin in the released etch in December.

 Jamie Cameron is the official author of Webmin
 (http://webmin.com/about.html) and has made it quite clear that he'd
 be happy to take over as maintainer.

It would be a good idea to start with the last package that has been
in unstable (use snapshot.debian.org to get the source) and fix as
much bugs as possible.  Then provide the package on a URL where at
least the bug reporters are able to fetch and test them.

 Webmin and the various other packages have not been _officially_
 orphaned, but they are _functionally_ orphaned. There are no versions
 of Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin in testing or unstable, and
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/webmin.html states the package is
 going to disappear unless someone takes it over and reintroduces it
 into unstable. I was wondering: How does one do that if the current
 maintainers aren't responding?

Pick the package, work on it, fix bugs, use mentors.debian.net to get
a sponsor so that the package can get back into sid and also apply as
a maintainer http://www.debian.org/devel/join/

 The goal is, of course, simply to keep the software alive in Debian.

Speaking for users, that would be good.  Speaking of an admin, please
be double-tripple careful to not open more security risks.

 To that end, I think it makes sense to have the package transferred to
 the responsibility of Jamie Cameron (the upstream author) for the best
 possible management. Jamie Cameron has already stated that, at the
 very least, he will create his own Webmin package for separate
 download, even if he can't get it added to the APT repository.

That would at least be a start and allow him faster development and
bug fixing when the package isn't sponsored at once.

Regards,

Joey

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Transfer Maintainership From MIA Maintainer

2006-07-02 Thread Jason Self

The listed maintainers for the Webmin package
(http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin) and the associated
packages like webmin-core, Usermin, etc. are MIA. They are not fixing
bugs or responding anymore.

Jamie Cameron is the official author of Webmin
(http://webmin.com/about.html) and has made it quite clear that he'd
be happy to take over as maintainer.

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/webmin-maintainers/2006-April/000682.html

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/webmin-maintainers/2006-July/000699.html

Webmin and the various other packages have not been _officially_
orphaned, but they are _functionally_ orphaned. There are no versions
of Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin in testing or unstable, and
http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/webmin.html states the package is
going to disappear unless someone takes it over and reintroduces it
into unstable. I was wondering: How does one do that if the current
maintainers aren't responding?

The goal is, of course, simply to keep the software alive in Debian.
To that end, I think it makes sense to have the package transferred to
the responsibility of Jamie Cameron (the upstream author) for the best
possible management. Jamie Cameron has already stated that, at the
very least, he will create his own Webmin package for separate
download, even if he can't get it added to the APT repository.


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Re: Transfer Maintainership From MIA Maintainer

2006-07-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jason Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.07.02.1026 +0200]:
 into unstable. I was wondering: How does one do that if the current
 maintainers aren't responding?

I would start with NMU'ing, that is, simply uploading new versions
that fix bugs, but without changing the maintainer field.

How long have you been trying to reach them, and how?

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Re: Transfer Maintainership From MIA Maintainer

2006-07-02 Thread Andreas Metzler
Jason Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The listed maintainers for the Webmin package
 (http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin) and the associated
 packages like webmin-core, Usermin, etc. are MIA. They are not fixing
 bugs or responding anymore.

Which is why they had asked to rrmove the packages.
[...]
 Webmin and the various other packages have not been _officially_
 orphaned, but they are _functionally_ orphaned.

They have been removed on maintainer request,
http://bugs.debian.org/343897.

 I was wondering: How does one do that if the current
 maintainers aren't responding?

Re-upload it. It is up for grabs.
   cu andreas
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Re: Transfer Maintainership From MIA Maintainer

2006-07-02 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 01:26:30AM -0700, Jason Self wrote:
 The listed maintainers for the Webmin package
 (http://packages.debian.org/stable/admin/webmin) and the associated
 packages like webmin-core, Usermin, etc. are MIA. They are not fixing
 bugs or responding anymore.
 
 Jamie Cameron is the official author of Webmin
 (http://webmin.com/about.html) and has made it quite clear that he'd
 be happy to take over as maintainer.
 
 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/webmin-maintainers/2006-April/000682.html
 
 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/webmin-maintainers/2006-July/000699.html
 
 Webmin and the various other packages have not been _officially_
 orphaned, but they are _functionally_ orphaned. There are no versions
 of Webmin/Usermin/Virtualmin in testing or unstable, and
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/webmin.html states the package is
 going to disappear unless someone takes it over and reintroduces it
 into unstable. I was wondering: How does one do that if the current
 maintainers aren't responding?
 
 The goal is, of course, simply to keep the software alive in Debian.
 To that end, I think it makes sense to have the package transferred to
 the responsibility of Jamie Cameron (the upstream author) for the best
 possible management. Jamie Cameron has already stated that, at the
 very least, he will create his own Webmin package for separate
 download, even if he can't get it added to the APT repository.
 
Hi Jason,
there is nothing preventing this. All that is needed is to follow
Debian procedure. Check the debian-mentors list for help with packaging
and here for requests for sponsorship for an upload. There are bugs
relatating to WNPP which can be addressed. You can also contact the last
know maintainer, Jalhdar Vayas for more specifics and help.
cheers,
Kev
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