Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:10 PM Sudip Mukherjee wrote:

> it seems its more than 7 days.

While replying to Joel's mail on debian-mentors I noticed that Sam was
last active in Debian in 2017:

https://contributors.debian.org/contributor/sho/
https://bugs.debian.org/873076

-- 
bye,
pabs

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Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Zlatan Todorić

Hi Joel,

On 8/24/20 4:07 AM, Joel Rivera wrote:

Hello,

I hope this is the right place (after following the instruction from [1]).

I'm trying to get in touch with Sam, regarding a package that he is listed as 
maintainer (editline) [2], last week I sent an email to debian-mentors [3] to 
figure the alternatives on how to proceed, thankfully I got an answer from Paul 
Wise with some options, I have personally sent emails to Sam, he haven't 
replied yet, but is been only a week since I sent them. I also contacted the 
upstream maintainer of the package, who claims to have tried to get in touch 
with Sam with no success [4].

I'll appreciate any ideas or pointers on how to proceed, otherwise I'll just 
wait three more weeks and see what else I can do.

Thanks.
--
Joel Rivera

[1]: 
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/beyond-pkging.en.html#mia-qa
[2]: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/editline
[3]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2020/08/msg00096.html
[4]: https://github.com/troglobit/editline/issues/42

I have somewhat outside Debian contact with Sam so I will check with him 
about it but I would also assume that he might be on vacation. Anyway, I 
will ping him and hopefully he replies here on list/to you or rally some 
message through me.


Z



Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alexis Murzeau, le lun. 24 août 2020 15:41:36 +0200, a ecrit:
> While 7 days in summer is rather small (some may have a month in
> vacation),
> you can have something in your TODO list for 9 years, but
> still reply to anyone asking a mail just saying something like:

Sure, but not everybody will do this, so one shouldn't necessarily
assume MIA from a lack of answer. I have seen quite a few of my bug
reports in our BTS being answered a couple of years later.

Samuel



Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Alexis Murzeau
Hi,

Le 24/08/2020 à 15:17, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Sudip Mukherjee, le lun. 24 août 2020 14:09:21 +0100, a ecrit:
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:50 PM Holger Levsen  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:21:25PM +0100, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
 If the maintainer is truly unavailable [...]
>>>
>>> well, yes, but here someone hasn't replied to an email within 7 days...
>>
>> Thats why the "if" in my reply. :)
>>
>> And besides, looking at
>> https://github.com/troglobit/editline/issues/42#issuecomment-674494039
>> it seems its more than 7 days.
> 
> I have mails in my mbox that are 9 years old.
> 
> Yes, I still indend to address them some day, it does happen from times
> to times that I dig back that long in the past.
> 
> Samuel
> 

While 7 days in summer is rather small (some may have a month in
vacation),
you can have something in your TODO list for 9 years, but
still reply to anyone asking a mail just saying something like:
 - "I'm still here but this is on my TODO list / I'm working on it",
 - or "I don't have enough time nowadays, you can take over the package
   if you want"
just to show you are present and reading mails (even if not
processing the underlying work they ask for).

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Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sudip Mukherjee, le lun. 24 août 2020 14:09:21 +0100, a ecrit:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:50 PM Holger Levsen  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:21:25PM +0100, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
> > > If the maintainer is truly unavailable [...]
> >
> > well, yes, but here someone hasn't replied to an email within 7 days...
> 
> Thats why the "if" in my reply. :)
> 
> And besides, looking at
> https://github.com/troglobit/editline/issues/42#issuecomment-674494039
> it seems its more than 7 days.

I have mails in my mbox that are 9 years old.

Yes, I still indend to address them some day, it does happen from times
to times that I dig back that long in the past.

Samuel



Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Sudip Mukherjee
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 1:50 PM Holger Levsen  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:21:25PM +0100, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
> > If the maintainer is truly unavailable [...]
>
> well, yes, but here someone hasn't replied to an email within 7 days...

Thats why the "if" in my reply. :)

And besides, looking at
https://github.com/troglobit/editline/issues/42#issuecomment-674494039
it seems its more than 7 days.


-- 
Regards
Sudip



Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 12:21:25PM +0100, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
> If the maintainer is truly unavailable [...]

well, yes, but here someone hasn't replied to an email within 7 days...


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Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi Joel!

> I'll appreciate any ideas or pointers on how to proceed, otherwise I'll just 
> wait three more weeks and see what else I can do.

It is not unusual for people in Europe to not be available throughout
summer, especially during the month of August.

Hence I would wait at least until mid-September before taking further steps.

regards,
 - ulrike



Re: Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-24 Thread Sudip Mukherjee
Hi Joel,

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 3:27 AM Joel Rivera  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I hope this is the right place (after following the instruction from [1]).
>

>
> I'll appreciate any ideas or pointers on how to proceed, otherwise I'll just 
> wait three more weeks and see what else I can do.

If the maintainer is truly unavailable and if you are interested to
maintain the package then you can open an ITS bug report. Its in more
details at 
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#how-to-salvage-a-package.


--
Regards
Sudip



Trying to get in touch with Sam Hocevar [MIA]

2020-08-23 Thread Joel Rivera
Hello,

I hope this is the right place (after following the instruction from [1]).

I'm trying to get in touch with Sam, regarding a package that he is listed as 
maintainer (editline) [2], last week I sent an email to debian-mentors [3] to 
figure the alternatives on how to proceed, thankfully I got an answer from Paul 
Wise with some options, I have personally sent emails to Sam, he haven't 
replied yet, but is been only a week since I sent them. I also contacted the 
upstream maintainer of the package, who claims to have tried to get in touch 
with Sam with no success [4].

I'll appreciate any ideas or pointers on how to proceed, otherwise I'll just 
wait three more weeks and see what else I can do.

Thanks.
--
Joel Rivera

[1]: 
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/beyond-pkging.en.html#mia-qa
[2]: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/editline
[3]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2020/08/msg00096.html
[4]: https://github.com/troglobit/editline/issues/42