Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Alexander E. Apke
I have been running the 2.3b3 version from experimental.  I have
had a few problem with it, assuming those problems were a result of it
being a beta version.  I think the only reason 2.3b3 is in experimental
was because it was a beta version.  Now that the final release is out, it
might be a good idea to move to the newer one, since it has dial on demand
support built in.  It also may have fixes for those ipx problem some
people were just complaining about.

My email was just to inform you that the new upstream version was
available.



Alex



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Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
> pppd should include all functionality possible. But the IPX features 
> should be disabled by default in the configuration file.

As far as I can tell having -ipx-protocol in /etc/ppp/options does this, so 
that's what I've done.

When I upload the next version (to put the group back to ``dip''), I'll also 
have changed the wording of the comment thus:

 # Disable the IPXCP and IPX protocols.  
 # To let pppd pass IPX packets comment this out --- you'll probably also
 # want to install ipxripd, and have the Internal IPX Network option enabled
 # in your kernel.  /usr/doc/HOWTO/IPX-HOWTO.gz contains more info.
 -ipx-protocol

Hope that's OK.

Cheers, Phil.


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Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
>   I was just wondering why we havn't upgraded to the new upstream
> version 2.3.0, which has been out since may 22.  I would figure it whould
> have quite a few fixes for some of the problems in 2.2.0.

There is a Debian package of 2.3.0 in project/experimental.

I've only recently taken on maintaining ppp, so I thought I'd get the current 
version fixed before having a go at the next version.

I presume that one reason 2.3 is in experimental is that there may be problems 
with going between 2.2 and 2.3, just as there were with 2.1 & 2.2.  Also, 
Christoph Lameter has put together a load of scripts to configure ppp, and I 
need to understand how they work before being confident about moving 2.3 out 
of experimental.

Once I've dealt with any bugs I can address with 2.2, I'll have a look at 2.3.

In the mean time, feel free to grab ppp_2.3b3-3_i386.deb, and tell me what 
blows up ;-)

Cheers, Phil.




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Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Alexander E. Apke
I was just wondering why we havn't upgraded to the new upstream
version 2.3.0, which has been out since may 22.  I would figure it whould
have quite a few fixes for some of the problems in 2.2.0.

Thanks


Alex




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Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Christoph Lameter
>> It is customary to expect TCP/IP connectivity from Unix boxes but
>> Novell Networking is something optional not regular.
>
>Absolutely --- The default /etc/ppp/options file disables IPX.
>
>Are you saying that this is not enough, and the user should have to recompile 
>pppd to get the IPX functionality?

pppd should include all functionality possible. But the IPX features 
should be disabled by default in the configuration file.
 
>How about if I make the default for IPX to be off in the executable ?

Just supplying a default configuration with IPX off would be sufficient
IMHO.


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RE: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Michael Meskes
I'm not sure where the problem is but IMO the binary should be able to
do IPX as soon as the user enables it in the config file.

While we're at it I wonder if anyone's using Debian to connect to an NT
RAS server? I'd like to try that but I'm unsure how much work it needs.
So if anyone could provide the neccessary configuration, that'll be
great.

Michael

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>-Original Message-
>From:  Philip Hands [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent:  Monday, June 23, 1997 10:08 AM
>To:Christoph Lameter
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>Subject:   Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master 
>
>Absolutely --- The default /etc/ppp/options file disables IPX.
>
>Are you saying that this is not enough, and the user should have to recompile
>pppd to get the IPX functionality?
>
>How about if I make the default for IPX to be off in the executable ?
>
>I think that people should be able to do this easily if they want,
>since it means that Debian can do everything that NT RAS can do.
>
>Cheers, Phil.
>
>
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Re: Uploaded ppp 2.2.0f-26 (source i386) to master

1997-06-23 Thread Philip Hands
Hi,

Since discussing this in private resulted in me doing something stupid,
I'll Cc: this to the list (all comments welcome).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> pppd is not just a dialout tool but also used to allow dialin. The
> group dip has been designed for that purpose (dialup ip).
>
> A user might be a member of the dip group and thus allowed dialin
> access but he is not allowed to initiate an outgoing connection and
> thus not a member of dialout. That scheme will not work anymore with
> your setup. 

I agree with this.

[
  Erik,
  you said that the documentation refers to dialout, rather than dip.
  Please submit a bug report.
]

In the mean time 2.2.0f-27 will be the same thing as 2.2.0f-25 (i.e. with pppd 
belonging to dip), unless someone comes up with a good reason for this not 
being the case.

> I would also
> suggest to disable IPX by default. Dialin users could be surprised to
> have access to corporate LAN resources. Negotiation with a Win95
> client gets much more complex with IPX enabled. Similar issues are
> valid for dialout.
>
> It is customary to expect TCP/IP connectivity from Unix boxes but
> Novell Networking is something optional not regular.

Absolutely --- The default /etc/ppp/options file disables IPX.

Are you saying that this is not enough, and the user should have to recompile 
pppd to get the IPX functionality?

How about if I make the default for IPX to be off in the executable ?

I think that people should be able to do this easily if they want,
since it means that Debian can do everything that NT RAS can do.

Cheers, Phil.



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