Re: copyright question for abuse

1997-05-22 Thread Bruce Perens
Take the public domain part and put it in one package.  Take the
non-free part and put it in another package. You already knew this but
I said it as context for the following:

Contact the author and ask them to issue the following more-legaly-correct
license _only_ on the public domain part:

Crack dot com surrenders its copyright rights to this software
 and releases it into the public domain.

Package the rest with their old copyright.

Thanks

Bruce
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Re: copyright question for abuse

1997-05-22 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens)  wrote on 21.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Take the public domain part and put it in one package.  Take the
 non-free part and put it in another package. You already knew this but
 I said it as context for the following:

 Contact the author and ask them to issue the following more-legaly-correct
 license _only_ on the public domain part:

   Crack dot com surrenders its copyright rights to this software
  and releases it into the public domain.

 Package the rest with their old copyright.

Well, that's one option. The other is to replace all references to public  
domain with references to freeware. Should have the same effect for us.

It's just that Copyright and public domain don't mix (and very few  
people seem to understand this).

MfG Kai


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copyright question for abuse

1997-05-21 Thread Joey Hess
Crack dot Com has decided to release abuse as public domain software. So no
more a.out abuse, once I get the new one built. But I do have a couple of
questions about their copyright:

 This release is to the public domain, meaning there are very few
 restrictions in on use.  But here are a few :

 Restrictions :
   Crack dot Com retains ownership of the Abuse Trademark and data sets.

 Disclaimer of Warranty :
   As with most Public Domain software, no warranty is made or implied
   by Crack dot Com or Jonathan Clark.
 
 Export Restrictions :
   I'm not a very legal person, so I don't know if PD software can
   be exported countries subject to U.S.A. export restrictions (currently
   Cuba, Yugoslavia, Hati, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, and Syria).  Just to
   be safe don't put it there.
 
 Things you CAN do :
   Make another game and sell it commercially
   Use bits and parts as you see fit.
   Learn how to make a better game
   Port Abuse to any system you like.

This all seems ok except for maybe the export restrictions section. We don't
have a non-Cuba-Yugoslavia-Hati-Iran-Iraq-North-Korea-and-Syria section like
we have a non-us section.. so does abuse belong in non-free or on some
us-only ftp site, or what?

Also, what is being released into the public domain is the abuse engine, but
not the data files for the actual game (levels, sounds, so on). Those still
have a non-free copyright. So there will probably be a abuse-libs package
that is in non-free, which will stick abuse, which will depend on that
package, right back in contrib, where it is now.

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Re: copyright question for abuse

1997-05-21 Thread Jim Pick

 Crack dot Com has decided to release abuse as public domain software. So no
 more a.out abuse, once I get the new one built. But I do have a couple of
 questions about their copyright:
 
  This release is to the public domain, meaning there are very few
  restrictions in on use.  But here are a few :
 
  Restrictions :
Crack dot Com retains ownership of the Abuse Trademark and data sets.

What does data sets mean?  Anyways, I think they are saying that they are
retaining copyright, and just licensing it.  This is the same as most of
our other software.

  Disclaimer of Warranty :
As with most Public Domain software, no warranty is made or implied
by Crack dot Com or Jonathan Clark.
  
  Export Restrictions :
I'm not a very legal person, so I don't know if PD software can
be exported countries subject to U.S.A. export restrictions (currently
Cuba, Yugoslavia, Hati, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, and Syria).  Just to
be safe don't put it there.

Nobody is allowed to export software (or hardly anything, really) to these
countries.  This can be safely ignored.
  
  Things you CAN do :
Make another game and sell it commercially
Use bits and parts as you see fit.
Learn how to make a better game
Port Abuse to any system you like.
 
 This all seems ok except for maybe the export restrictions section. We don't
 have a non-Cuba-Yugoslavia-Hati-Iran-Iraq-North-Korea-and-Syria section like
 we have a non-us section.. so does abuse belong in non-free or on some
 us-only ftp site, or what?

Don't worry about it.
 
 Also, what is being released into the public domain is the abuse engine, but
 not the data files for the actual game (levels, sounds, so on). Those still
 have a non-free copyright. So there will probably be a abuse-libs package
 that is in non-free, which will stick abuse, which will depend on that
 package, right back in contrib, where it is now.

Sounds like the libs can go into the free section.  Cool.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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Re: copyright question for abuse

1997-05-21 Thread Guy Maor
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This all seems ok except for maybe the export restrictions section. We don't
 have a non-Cuba-Yugoslavia-Hati-Iran-Iraq-North-Korea-and-Syria section like
 we have a non-us section.. so does abuse belong in non-free or on some
 us-only ftp site, or what?

Don't worry about that.  The same statement could be made about the
entire main distribution.

 Also, what is being released into the public domain is the abuse engine, but
 not the data files for the actual game (levels, sounds, so on). Those still
 have a non-free copyright. So there will probably be a abuse-libs package
 that is in non-free, which will stick abuse, which will depend on that
 package, right back in contrib, where it is now.

At least it won't be a.out any more.


Guy


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