Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
On 24.3.2021 17.02, Harald Dunkel wrote: On 3/24/21 2:49 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: So what would be your suggestion? If you are still asking about getting this package into bullseye then I'm afraid it's not possible. Otherwise, as already suggested, it's possible to have it in bullseye-backports after fixing problems keeping it outside testing. Thats not the point. The point is, how can we make sure that freeipa-client stays in Testing for Bookworm, even if there is a fatal problem with freeipa-server? I'm not going to do that anymore, but instead backport once the blocker is fixed. -- t
Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
Hi Harald, Quoting Harald Dunkel (2021-03-24 16:02:17) > On 3/24/21 2:49 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > >> So what would be your suggestion? > > If you are still asking about getting this package into bullseye > > then I'm afraid it's not possible. Otherwise, as already suggested, > > it's possible to have it in bullseye-backports after fixing problems > > keeping it outside testing. > > > > Thats not the point. > > The point is, how can we make sure that freeipa-client stays in Testing > for Bookworm, even if there is a fatal problem with freeipa-server? Please file a bugreport against freeipa, suggesting to split into two source packages, one for server and one for client. Maybe the maintainers will agree that it is a sensible move, but maybe they will disagree that other concerns (e.g. simplicity of maintenance) overweighs the risk of the package not stabilizing. It really isn't sensible to discuss this among all Debian developers: It's very much tied to the maintenance of that specific package. Kind regards, and thanks for caring about Debian, - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature
Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 04:02:17PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > If you are still asking about getting this package into bullseye then I'm > > afraid it's not possible. Otherwise, as already suggested, it's possible > > to have it in bullseye-backports after fixing problems keeping it outside > > testing. > > > > Thats not the point. You should have expressed it more clearly then. > The point is, how can we make sure that freeipa-client stays in Testing > for Bookworm, even if there is a fatal problem with freeipa-server? Make it a separate source package, if it's possible to do a clean split. Make sure the server package neither build-depends nor depends on the client one. The only sane way to do this is at the upstream side though. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
On 3/24/21 2:49 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: So what would be your suggestion? If you are still asking about getting this package into bullseye then I'm afraid it's not possible. Otherwise, as already suggested, it's possible to have it in bullseye-backports after fixing problems keeping it outside testing. Thats not the point. The point is, how can we make sure that freeipa-client stays in Testing for Bookworm, even if there is a fatal problem with freeipa-server?
Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > For my own part, I run freeipa-server on CentOS 7. I am not affected > > > by #970880. I would be very happy with freeipa-client in Bullseye, even > > > if freeipa-server doesn't make it. > > The deadline for adding new packages to testing was 2021-02-12. > So what would be your suggestion? If you are still asking about getting this package into bullseye then I'm afraid it's not possible. Otherwise, as already suggested, it's possible to have it in bullseye-backports after fixing problems keeping it outside testing. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:33:53PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > On 3/24/21 11:05 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:02:37AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > For my own part, I run freeipa-server on CentOS 7. I am not affected > > > by #970880. I would be very happy with freeipa-client in Bullseye, even > > > if freeipa-server doesn't make it. > > The deadline for adding new packages to testing was 2021-02-12. > > So what would be your suggestion? FWIW, my suggestion would be to attempt to work with the Debian FreeIPA team (there is a release critical bug open since September 2020, so it's unclear how active the team is currently) to get the package healthy, and after Bullseye releases, work to get it into testing, and then into Bullseye-backports. Cheers, - Ted
Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
On 3/24/21 11:05 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:02:37AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: For my own part, I run freeipa-server on CentOS 7. I am not affected by #970880. I would be very happy with freeipa-client in Bullseye, even if freeipa-server doesn't make it. The deadline for adding new packages to testing was 2021-02-12. So what would be your suggestion?
Re: freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:02:37AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > I understand that freeipa-server has a very serious problem (#970880), > making it unfit for Bullseye. It is *highly* painful that it puts > freeipa-client at risk for the next release, too. We had something > similar for Buster about 2 years ago, AFAIR. The freeipa source package is not in testing since 2019-10-07, so "at risk for the next release" is an understatement. > For my own part, I run freeipa-server on CentOS 7. I am not affected > by #970880. I would be very happy with freeipa-client in Bullseye, even > if freeipa-server doesn't make it. The deadline for adding new packages to testing was 2021-02-12. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature
freeipa is in trouble for the next release (again)
Hi folks, I understand that freeipa-server has a very serious problem (#970880), making it unfit for Bullseye. It is *highly* painful that it puts freeipa-client at risk for the next release, too. We had something similar for Buster about 2 years ago, AFAIR. For my own part, I run freeipa-server on CentOS 7. I am not affected by #970880. I would be very happy with freeipa-client in Bullseye, even if freeipa-server doesn't make it. Do you think it would be possible to cut a clear line between freeipa- client and -server? Regards Harri -- https://bugs.debian.org/970880
