icu, vips transition to testing

2005-09-19 Thread Jay Berkenbilt

Though grep-excuses shows them to be valid candidates, both icu and
vips appear to be not transitioning to testing because of making
packages uninstallable on alpha (according to
http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=icu and corresponding
for vips), but I don't see any evidence that they actually will make
packages uninstallable on alpha.  Am I missing something (including
possibly some announcement), or is something wrong?  It seems like,
disregarding m68k, icu, xerces25, xerces26, libxml-xerces-perl, vips,
and nip2 should all be able to transition.  Is this the case, or have
I overlooked something?  I don't see why these transitions should
happen on their own.  Thanks for any resolution or explanation.

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Re: icu, vips transition to testing

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:45:31PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:

 Though grep-excuses shows them to be valid candidates, both icu and
 vips appear to be not transitioning to testing because of making
 packages uninstallable on alpha (according to
 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=icu and corresponding
 for vips), but I don't see any evidence that they actually will make
 packages uninstallable on alpha.  Am I missing something (including
 possibly some announcement), or is something wrong?

Standard scenario requiring a hint to update multiple packages together.
This isn't done automatically because it's computationally infeasible.
Hints added for both of these package groups which should take effect
tomorrow as long as there are no other packages that still need to be
updated in unstable.

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Re: icu, vips transition to testing

2005-09-19 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:45:31PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:

 Though grep-excuses shows them to be valid candidates, both icu and
 vips appear to be not transitioning to testing because of making
 packages uninstallable on alpha (according to
 http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=icu and corresponding
 for vips), but I don't see any evidence that they actually will make
 packages uninstallable on alpha.  Am I missing something (including
 possibly some announcement), or is something wrong?

 Standard scenario requiring a hint to update multiple packages together.
 This isn't done automatically because it's computationally infeasible.
 Hints added for both of these package groups which should take effect
 tomorrow as long as there are no other packages that still need to be
 updated in unstable.

Is the scenario in question that package A2 replaces package A1 and a
new version of package B that used to depend upon A1 now depends upon
A2 such that replacing A1 with A2 would make B in testing
uninstallable even though an upgrade of B would resolve the problem?
(That's a mouthful.)  I'd have to think a bit to convince myself that
detecting this in the general case would be computationally infeasible
(though it seems like a distinct possibility that it would be for
large numbers of dependencies), but I can certainly accept that it is
tricky to code and, more importantly, not currently coded, so thanks
for the hint. :-)

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Re: icu, vips transition to testing

2005-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 11:30:06PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
 Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:45:31PM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:

  Though grep-excuses shows them to be valid candidates, both icu and
  vips appear to be not transitioning to testing because of making
  packages uninstallable on alpha (according to
  http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=icu and corresponding
  for vips), but I don't see any evidence that they actually will make
  packages uninstallable on alpha.  Am I missing something (including
  possibly some announcement), or is something wrong?

  Standard scenario requiring a hint to update multiple packages together.
  This isn't done automatically because it's computationally infeasible.
  Hints added for both of these package groups which should take effect
  tomorrow as long as there are no other packages that still need to be
  updated in unstable.

 Is the scenario in question that package A2 replaces package A1 and a
 new version of package B that used to depend upon A1 now depends upon
 A2 such that replacing A1 with A2 would make B in testing
 uninstallable even though an upgrade of B would resolve the problem?

Yes.

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