Re: jabber field on db.debian.org?

2001-01-09 Thread Othmar Pasteka
hi,

On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 06:24:44PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote:
 Today, Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  -) Or, during a short period (say, 2 months or so?) both fields could
  be there, and icq should really be dropped.
 Or, they could both be there (if space permits) with the ICQ field
 output as [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Talking about encouragement... (-:

Well, there can also be icq.jabber.at, so i wouldn't preset it to
jabber.org/.com :).
but a jabber field in db would be great *g*

so long
Othmar




Re: jabber field on db.debian.org?

2001-01-09 Thread Dave Baker
[Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about dropping icq field]
  Jason said he won't decide - I really understand that.  But maybe if
 some of the other 113 people that are currently using the icq field (or
 also others, that might use the jabber field) could comment on this it
 would be greatly encouraged to express your feelings :-)

I'm one of the other 113.  I just filled in the blank because it was
there.  Supporting, encouraging a free system is the Right Thing to do and
has my vote.

That said, if we're going to reorganize the contact details, how about
rolling irc into the mix.  I don't really use irc or icq that much but
fill in the blanks because I stop by from time to time.  What might be
better is a list box of common (or uncommon) systems and a space to enter
specific details.  Thus you might have primary/secondary, each one being
icq/aim/jabber/irc/whatever with a suitable length field to enter the
data

But ... to just remove ICQ with Jabber id would be a great way to start
the ball rolling.

Dave

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jabber field on db.debian.org?

2001-01-08 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi!

 I was just wondering - there is this icq-field on
http://db.debian.org/, which I have to say I'm not really happy with.
It's not the kind of thing that seems the right thing[tm] for Debian. I
would rather like to have a jabber field instead of that

 jabber, you might ask?  From the jabber.org FAQ: Jabber is an
XML-based, open-source system and protocol for real-time messaging and
presence notification.  You might say: Hey, that's the same as icq, so
why bother?  But I say: Hey, it's open-source, and that's what Debian
is all about, right?  So, instead of supporting (and even encouraging
the developers!) the usage of a closed-source (but reverse engineered?)
protocol we should state once again what Debian is all about, right?

 I see that there might be problems due to the translation: Current
icq-field can't simply be turned into a jabber-field which would produce
some problems. On the other hand, another field might take lots of space
on the disk.

 So I thought a little about it and came up with the following:

-) The current field could be used for either one, and on display it
could be decided that it is a icq-field if it contains only of numbers.

-) Or, during a short period (say, 2 months or so?) both fields could be
there, and icq should really be dropped.

-) Finally, icq field could simply be dropped.

 Last point isn't really the best way to go - though there are currently
only 115 people using the icq field, according to Jason Gunthorpe,
including me.  And I think I'm not the only one of those people (at
least I know also that Othmar Pasteka would encourage this change).

 Jason said he won't decide - I really understand that.  But maybe if
some of the other 113 people that are currently using the icq field (or
also others, that might use the jabber field) could comment on this it
would be greatly encouraged to express your feelings :-)

 So, comments are welcome, Cc: from messages to the list NOT!
Alfie




Re: jabber field on db.debian.org?

2001-01-08 Thread Christian Surchi
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 08:44:38AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
  I was just wondering - there is this icq-field on
 http://db.debian.org/, which I have to say I'm not really happy with.
 It's not the kind of thing that seems the right thing[tm] for Debian. I
 would rather like to have a jabber field instead of that

I second you idea. Jabber is an interesting free project and we could
help to spread it. 

Christian

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Re: jabber field on db.debian.org?

2001-01-08 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -) Or, during a short period (say, 2 months or so?) both fields could
 be there, and icq should really be dropped.

Or, they could both be there (if space permits) with the ICQ field
output as [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Talking about encouragement... (-:

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