Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:21:06PM -0400, Mitch Blevins wrote:
  FWIW - I have the same problem.  No idled.  No logoutd.  No lines
  in /etc/porttime.  Still get booted off the console after several
  hours.

 Perhaps it's your shell; tcsh has auto-logout functionality.

nope.  i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks).  the problem also
occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was noticed.

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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-18 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 10:03:30AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
 nope.  i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks).  the problem also
 occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was noticed.
perhaps cpu seconds limit enforced by ulimit?

See ulimit -a

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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 10:03:30AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
  nope. i create all new accounts with bash (*csh sucks). the problem
  also occurs with ppp logins - in fact, that was how the problem was
  noticed.

 perhaps cpu seconds limit enforced by ulimit?

 See ulimit -a

nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that
the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has
been exceeded.

this is very strange as the machine in question has no timeout daemons
(timeoutd, idled, autolog) installed. it's a plain slink install with
internet-gateway  dialin-server type packages installed (squid, apache,
qmail, mgetty, pppd, etc)

i've built many similar boxes and haven't encountered this problem before.
it seems specific to slink.

craig

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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-18 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
 nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that
 the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has
 been exceeded.

Only on serial lines or on telnet/ssh/console, too? Are u sure there are no
idle logout daemons installed? Some of them run from crontab so you wont see
them in ps.

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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-18 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
  nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1)
  that the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time
  limit has been exceeded.

 Only on serial lines or on telnet/ssh/console, too? Are u sure there
 are no idle logout daemons installed? Some of them run from crontab so
 you wont see them in ps.

i've only noticed it on serial lines.  it certainly doesn't happen on root
ssh logins.  i don't use telnet, and the machine is at a remote location
so i don't know if it happens on the console -- i built it by logging in
at the console, of course :-), and i don't remember it happening then.

i should test whether it is specific to non-root logins as well.  ssh as a
normal user rather than as root.

craig

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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-18 Thread Bart Warmerdam
On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 11:30:26AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:

[snip]

 
 nope. the messages printed are specifically mentioning either 1) that
 the idle timeout has been exceeded, or 2) that the daily time limit has
 been exceeded.
 

  Do you have PAM installed. I vaguely remember you can specify such things
  there (but i'm not sure though).

  Bart

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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:21:06PM -0400, Mitch Blevins wrote:
 FWIW - I have the same problem.  No idled.  No logoutd.
 No lines in /etc/porttime.  Still get booted off the console
 after several hours.

Perhaps it's your shell; tcsh has auto-logout functionality.


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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-16 Thread Mitch Blevins
Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 12:21:06PM -0400, Mitch Blevins wrote:
  FWIW - I have the same problem.  No idled.  No logoutd.
  No lines in /etc/porttime.  Still get booted off the console
  after several hours.
 
 Perhaps it's your shell; tcsh has auto-logout functionality.

That was it.  Thanks.

-Mitch


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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote:

 Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily
  time limits on serial lines?
 
 I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled:
 
 Description: Idle Daemon. Removes idle users.
  Idled is a daemon that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current
  users.  If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on
  for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately.

yeah, i know about idled.  i even package a similar daemon for debian
(timeoutd).

i don't have idled or timeoutd or anything similar installed on the machine
in question.  that was the first thing i thought of.

this idle timeout only seems to occur for logins on a serial line (both
terminal and ppp logins), never on console or a pty.

thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't help.  this problem seems
specific to slink...perhaps a new login binary does it.


craig


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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Crowley
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily
 time limits on serial lines?
 
 i've hunted all over (even to the point of grepping every file in /etc, 
 /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin) for it and can't find it anywhere.
 
 how do i turn it off?  i don't want time limits.

I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled:

Description: Idle Daemon. Removes idle users.
 Idled is a daemon that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current
 users.  If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on
 for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately.
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Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Tom Lear
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Craig Sanders wrote:

 On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote:
 
  Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily
   time limits on serial lines?
  
  I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled:
  
  Description: Idle Daemon. Removes idle users.
   Idled is a daemon that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current
   users.  If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on
   for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately.
 
 yeah, i know about idled.  i even package a similar daemon for debian
 (timeoutd).
 
 i don't have idled or timeoutd or anything similar installed on the machine
 in question.  that was the first thing i thought of.

Maybe autolog, it's in hamm too though.
autolog - Terminates connections for idle users
- Tom



Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Mitch Blevins
Craig Sanders wrote:
 On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote:
 
  Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily
   time limits on serial lines?
  
  I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled:
  
  Description: Idle Daemon. Removes idle users.
   Idled is a daemon that runs on a machine to keep an eye on current
   users.  If users have been idle for too long, or have been logged on
   for too long, it will warn them and log them out appropriately.
 
 yeah, i know about idled.  i even package a similar daemon for debian
 (timeoutd).
 
 i don't have idled or timeoutd or anything similar installed on the machine
 in question.  that was the first thing i thought of.
 
 this idle timeout only seems to occur for logins on a serial line (both
 terminal and ppp logins), never on console or a pty.
 
 thanks for the suggestion, but it doesn't help.  this problem seems
 specific to slink...perhaps a new login binary does it.
 

FWIW - I have the same problem.  No idled.  No logoutd.
No lines in /etc/porttime.  Still get booted off the console
after several hours.

-Mitch


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login time limits in slink???

1998-10-14 Thread Craig Sanders

anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily
time limits on serial lines?

i've hunted all over (even to the point of grepping every file in /etc, 
/bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin) for it and can't find it anywhere.

how do i turn it off?  i don't want time limits.

craig

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