mpsql

1998-10-07 Thread Michael Meskes
Anyone using it? I noticed two days ago that the buttons are gone. Since I
updated mpsql and lesstif almost at the same time I'm not exactly sure what
happened, but have the feeling the change in lesstif caused this. Anyone
else experiencing this problem? Please tell me what happens on your system
and what version you use.

Michael
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Re: Uploaded mpsql 2.0-1 (source i386) to erlangen

1998-06-09 Thread Gregory S. Stark

Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Yann Dirson writes:
  Hm, assuming the b1 means it's beta stuff, I think it would be
  better to keep it in the Debian version.  Changing the version number
 
 Yes, but then slink is also beta.
 
  * heavily using epochs
 
 I HATE epochs!
 
  * add a string like final to the version when out of beta (I'll use
  this for fweb)
 
 I did that for my NMU of lyx, but it's not exactly nice either.

this problem keeps coming up. i was thinking it would be handy to have a
character that is defined to sort before 0 and before the empty string. 
tilde seems like the best choice to me, so something like:

krb4-0.9.9~980514 
fltk-0.9.9~980527
mpsql-2.0~b1

which i think is probably clearer than what i actually did:

krb4-0.9.8.980514
fltk-0.9.8.980527

or the other suggestions.

just an idea.

greg


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dpkg and alpha/beta versioning (Was: Uploaded mpsql 2.0-1)

1998-06-09 Thread Yann Dirson
Gregory S. Stark writes:
  this problem keeps coming up. i was thinking it would be handy to have a
  character that is defined to sort before 0 and before the empty string. 
  tilde seems like the best choice to me, so something like:
  
  krb4-0.9.9~980514 
  fltk-0.9.9~980527
  mpsql-2.0~b1
  
  which i think is probably clearer than what i actually did:
  
  krb4-0.9.8.980514
  fltk-0.9.8.980527

This is a simple idea.  IIRC, as the ~ char is not not allowed for now
in version numbers, it could work.

I remember of another proposal of extension of version syntax which
was proposed (probably on deb-dev), which IIRC was to use an
epoch-like syntax like 0.1:1.2-3, which did not contaminate all future
versions with the epoch (which was, as I understand it, one of the
arguments epoch's enemies have).  I don't remember the (IIRC a bit
hairy) exact semantics, but maybe it's worth studying further.

Another problem we'll have will be what version-string to present the
user to make it understand it's alpha/beta/whatever.  Either
extensions (tilde and dotted-epoch) are non-trivial as such, and
should only be used IMHO as an internal (ie. for dpkg and developpers,
and not for users) representation.

If we're at last going to discuss these issues, I'm volunteering to
coordinate the discussion and post summaries of the discussion's
progress.

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Re: Uploaded mpsql 2.0-1 (source i386) to erlangen

1998-06-08 Thread Michael Meskes
Yann Dirson writes:
 Hm, assuming the b1 means it's beta stuff, I think it would be
 better to keep it in the Debian version.  Changing the version number

Yes, but then slink is also beta.

 * heavily using epochs

I HATE epochs!

 * add a string like final to the version when out of beta (I'll use
 this for fweb)

I did that for my NMU of lyx, but it's not exactly nice either.

Michael

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Re: Uploaded mpsql 2.0-1 (source i386) to erlangen

1998-06-08 Thread Michael Meskes
Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
 Hm, assuming the b1 means it's beta stuff, I think it would be
 better to keep it in the Debian version.  Changing the version number
 is confusing.  Yes, I now it's a pain when it gets out of beta.  I
 know of 4 solutions:
 
 Another one is using a '-' as seperator. a '-' sorts lower then a '.',
 so you can have
 
 mpsql_2.0-b1
 
 And then release
 
 mpsql_2.0.0
 
 The only problem is that mpsql_2.0 does sort lower so it depends
 a bit on the version number. But with squid_2.1-beta22 and later
 squid_2.1.0 it will work.

That ones a good idea, but then since I already uploaded 2.0-1 it won't work
now. 

Also the beta is not exactly in the source. The upstream changelog says:

--v.2.0 beta 1

added online help (HTML) using libhelp by Thomas Harrer.
help included:
1. MPSQL application help
2. PostgreSQL programs and utilities
3. SQL reference
added context sensitive help to the application

Michael

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Re: Uploaded mpsql 2.0-1 (source i386) to erlangen

1998-06-08 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
According to Michael Meskes:
 Miquel van Smoorenburg writes:
  Another one is using a '-' as seperator. a '-' sorts lower then a '.',
  so you can have
  
  mpsql_2.0-b1
  
  And then release
  
  mpsql_2.0.0
  
  The only problem is that mpsql_2.0 does sort lower so it depends
  a bit on the version number. But with squid_2.1-beta22 and later
  squid_2.1.0 it will work.
 
 That ones a good idea, but then since I already uploaded 2.0-1 it won't work
 now. 

Aha, nope -

Sort order:

mpsql_2.0-1
mpsql_2.0-b1
mpsql_2.0.0

So it is still possible to release a 2.0-b1 or 2.0-b2 now _if_ you know for
sure that the stable release is going to be 2.0.0 and not 2.0

But that's something you have to decide on yourself - it doesn't matter
to me, I just wanted to point this out since I thought it was a
neat solution.

Mike.
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Re: Uploaded mpsql 2.0-1 (source i386) to erlangen

1998-06-07 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Meskes writes:
   mpsql (2.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
   .
 * Initial Release.
 * Based on version 2.0b1.

Hm, assuming the b1 means it's beta stuff, I think it would be
better to keep it in the Debian version.  Changing the version number
is confusing.  Yes, I now it's a pain when it gets out of beta.  I
know of 4 solutions:

Another one is using a '-' as seperator. a '-' sorts lower then a '.',
so you can have

mpsql_2.0-b1

And then release

mpsql_2.0.0

The only problem is that mpsql_2.0 does sort lower so it depends
a bit on the version number. But with squid_2.1-beta22 and later
squid_2.1.0 it will work.

Mike.
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Re: Uploaded mpsql 2.0-1 (source i386) to erlangen

1998-06-06 Thread Yann Dirson
Michael Meskes writes:
   mpsql (2.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
   .
 * Initial Release.
 * Based on version 2.0b1.

Hm, assuming the b1 means it's beta stuff, I think it would be
better to keep it in the Debian version.  Changing the version number
is confusing.  Yes, I now it's a pain when it gets out of beta.  I
know of 4 solutions:

* pushing for implementation in dpkg of things like alpha/beta stuff
(IIRC there wasn't enough voices last time there was a talk about this)

* heavily using epochs

* add a string like final to the version when out of beta (I'll use
this for fweb)

* consider alpha/beta to be based on previous version.  I use this for
e2fsprogs 1.12-WIP, which I numbered 1.10-1.12-WIP-debian_rel


Note that the 1st one is not incompatible at all with other ones ;)

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