Re: non-free firmware: driver in main or contrib?

2004-10-23 Thread Matthew Garrett
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The point is, some drivers DO require firmwares. I'd rather say: Some
> depend on firmware. In that case, if the firmware is non-free, the
> driver can't go in main.

Is this the case even if the firmware is in a flash chip attached to the
device? If the total amount of non-free software on a user's system is
the same regardless, why are we concerned about how it's packaged?

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Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: non-free firmware: driver in main or contrib?

2004-10-23 Thread Matthew Garrett
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> The point is, some drivers DO require firmwares. I'd rather say: Some
>> depend on firmware. In that case, if the firmware is non-free, the
>> driver can't go in main.
> 
> Is this the case even if the firmware is in a flash chip attached to the
> device? If the total amount of non-free software on a user's system is
> the same regardless, why are we concerned about how it's packaged?

Argh. Sorry, I shouldn't be allowed to post while drunk. That was meant
to go to -legal, not -devel.

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Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: non-free firmware: driver in main or contrib?

2004-10-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 03:41:13AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Is this the case even if the firmware is in a flash chip attached to the
> device? If the total amount of non-free software on a user's system is
> the same regardless, why are we concerned about how it's packaged?

'kay, this has already been debated earlier, but let me rephrase it.
If some driver depend on *loading* a non-free firmware, i.e. being
*totally* useless without, it goes into contrib.
Same applies to any software in debian, right ?

Mike




Re: non-free firmware: driver in main or contrib?

2004-10-24 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 04:20:16AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Argh. Sorry, I shouldn't be allowed to post while drunk. That was meant
> to go to -legal, not -devel.

And i shouldn't have replied without looking at the To: field.

Mike