octave-plplot: intention to package
Hurrying before the slink freeze, here is my intention to package: === Package: octave-plplot Version: 0.3-1 Section: math Priority: optional Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), libstdc++2.9, tcl8.0 (>=8.0.3), tk8.0 (>=8.0.3), xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), octave, plplot-tcl (>= 4.99j-5) Installed-Size: 520 Maintainer: Rafael Laboissiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: PLplot interface for Octave This package enables you to use PLplot from within Octave. When this package is installed, all the plotting funtions of octave are replaced by corresponding PLplot ones. . Using it instead of the regular gnuplot interface, you have the following advantages: . - Use a superior plotting package, having access to dozens of plotting commands, enabling you to customize your plots at your will. - Still use the same plot commands that you are familiarized, if you really want to. - Have some new and long waited ploting command scripts. . Besides having acess to all PLplot API commands, and all Octave usual commands, some with some improvements, new commands are available. They are: autostyle, ginput, grid, gtext, legend, cmap, pldef, save_fig, set_view, shade, contour, stripc, stripc_add, stripc_del, tdeblank, text, xticks, and zoom. === [This will be a great improvement for Octave, IMHO.] Actually, I already packaged it. It is lintian-clean and all the demos are working. I have just a problem with the copyright, as there is no copyright notice in the upstream source. I obtained it from the octave-sources mailing list, so I am assuming that it is in the public domain. I will upload it to slink/main, if nobody objects. (This message is being Cc;'d to the author, so he can react if I am not doing the right thing). -- Rafael Laboissiere Institut de la Communication Parlee | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UPRESS A CNRS 5009 / INPG | Voice: +33 4.76.57.48.49 46, av. Felix Viallet | Fax: +33 4.76.57.47.10 F-38031 Grenoble CEDEX 1 France | URL: http://www.icp.inpg.fr/~rafael
Re: octave-plplot: intention to package
Rafael Laboissiere wrote: Hurrying before the slink freeze, here is my intention to package: === Package: octave-plplot Version: 0.3-1 Section: math Priority: optional Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u), libstdc++2.9, tcl8.0 (>=8.0.3), tk8.0 (>=8.0.3), xlib6g (>= 3.3-5), octave, plplot-tcl (>= 4.99j-5) Installed-Size: 520 Maintainer: Rafael Laboissiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: PLplot interface for Octave This package enables you to use PLplot from within Octave. When this package is installed, all the plotting funtions of octave are replaced by corresponding PLplot ones. . Using it instead of the regular gnuplot interface, you have the following advantages: . - Use a superior plotting package, having access to dozens of plotting commands, enabling you to customize your plots at your will. - Still use the same plot commands that you are familiarized, if you really want to. - Have some new and long waited ploting command scripts. . Besides having acess to all PLplot API commands, and all Octave usual commands, some with some improvements, new commands are available. They are: autostyle, ginput, grid, gtext, legend, cmap, pldef, save_fig, set_view, shade, contour, stripc, stripc_add, stripc_del, tdeblank, text, xticks, and zoom. === [This will be a great improvement for Octave, IMHO.] Actually, I already packaged it. It is lintian-clean and all the demos are working. I have just a problem with the copyright, as there is no copyright notice in the upstream source. I obtained it from the octave-sources mailing list, so I am assuming that it is in the public domain. I know nothing about copyrights, so I include none in the sources. My intention is that plplot_octave could be available in a future release of Octave, if Octave's author wants to. If including it in a Debian release disallows my intention, than I would not approve it. As I told before, my intention is to enable it to be used as Octave is, with a GNU General Public License (which I have never fully read :-)) . If you want to add/include in all modified sources or scripts the GNU licence header, I will be happy (if this is still possible after I have put the package un-intentionally in the public domain). Anyway, I already have latter versions, but they are not packaged for public usage. Thanks, Joao PS- John Eaton: do you have any comments? I will upload it to slink/main, if nobody objects. (This message is being Cc;'d to the author, so he can react if I am not doing the right thing). -- Rafael Laboissiere Institut de la Communication Parlee | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UPRESS A CNRS 5009 / INPG | Voice: +33 4.76.57.48.49 46, av. Felix Viallet | Fax: +33 4.76.57.47.10 F-38031 Grenoble CEDEX 1 France | URL: http://www.icp.inpg.fr/~rafael -- Joao Cardoso | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INESC, R. Jose Falcao 110 | tel: + 351 2 2094322 4050 Porto, Portugal | fax: + 351 2 2008487
Re: octave-plplot: intention to package
Ola Joao, Thanks for your prompt reply. > "JC" == Joao Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JC> I know nothing about copyrights, so I include none in the JC> sources. My intention is that plplot_octave could be available JC> in a future release of Octave, if Octave's author wants to. If JC> including it in a Debian release disallows my intention, than I JC> would not approve it. Absolutely, inclusion in the Debian distribution will _not_ prevent any inclusion of the plplot_octave interface into a future release of Octave. One of my intentions in packaging it for Debian is to give more visibility to your great software (as well as to PLplot itself), such that development can be speeded up. A better plotting interface is really needed for Octave at present. JC> As I told before, my intention is to enable it to be used as JC> Octave is, with a GNU General Public License (which I have never JC> fully read :-)) . If you want to add/include in all modified JC> sources or scripts the GNU licence header, I will be happy (if JC> this is still possible after I have put the package JC> un-intentionally in the public domain). It is too much work to do that, and as it is getting colder and colder (slink freeze is imminent) I just changed the copyright file to satisfy your desire. I am attaching the modified copyright below. Debian developers: do you think that this is acceptable? JC> Anyway, I already have latter versions, but they are not JC> packaged for public usage. Great. They will appear in Debian 2.2 (or 3.0?). -- Rafael Laboissiere Institut de la Communication Parlee | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UPRESS A CNRS 5009 / INPG | Voice: +33 4.76.57.48.49 46, av. Felix Viallet | Fax: +33 4.76.57.47.10 F-38031 Grenoble CEDEX 1 France | URL: http://www.icp.inpg.fr/~rafael = /usr/doc/octave-plplot/copyright This package was debianized by Rafael Laboissiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:20:19 +0200. This package was built from a tarball sent by Joao Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to the octave-sources mailing list (see the announcement in http://www.che.wisc.edu/octave/mailing-lists/octave-sources/1998/5). Copyright: The files in the source distribution have no copyright notice, but by explicit request from the author, the following terms apply: Copyright (C) 1998 Joao Cardoso. All rights reserved. This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. [In Debian systems, see file /usr/doc/copyright/GPL.] This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. Many files under /usr/share/octave/site/m/PLplot have the following line: ## Copyright (C) 1996 John W. Eaton and were released under the GPL. They were modified by Joao Cardoso and are assumed to be released under the same licencing terms.
Re: octave-plplot: intention to package
On 15-Oct-1998, Joao Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Rafael Laboissiere wrote: | | > Hurrying before the slink freeze, here is my intention to package: | > | > Package: octave-plplot | > Version: 0.3-1 [...] | > [This will be a great improvement for Octave, IMHO.] | > | > Actually, I already packaged it. It is lintian-clean and all the demos | > are working. I have just a problem with the copyright, as there is no | > copyright notice in the upstream source. I obtained it from the | > octave-sources mailing list, so I am assuming that it is in the public | > domain. | | I know nothing about copyrights, so I include none in the sources. | My intention is that plplot_octave could be available in a future release of | Octave, if Octave's author wants to. If including it in a Debian release | disallows my intention, than I would not approve it. | | As I told before, my intention is to enable it to be used as Octave | is, with a GNU General Public License (which I have never fully read | :-)) . If you want to add/include in all modified sources or | scripts the GNU licence header, I will be happy (if this is still | possible after I have put the package un-intentionally in the public | domain). | | Anyway, I already have latter versions, but they are not packaged | for public usage. | | Thanks, | Joao | | PS- John Eaton: do you have any comments? I don't have any objection to this being distributed as a separate Debian package. Eventually, it may make it in to the core Octave distribution in some form, but I can't say yet when that might happen. Thanks, jwe
Re: octave-plplot: intention to package
Hi, I agree with the enclosed copyright notice. Octave's author also has no objections. Please correct, if still possible, my e-mail address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks, Joao Rafael Laboissiere wrote: Ola Joao, Thanks for your prompt reply. > "JC" == Joao Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JC> I know nothing about copyrights, so I include none in the JC> sources. My intention is that plplot_octave could be available JC> in a future release of Octave, if Octave's author wants to. If JC> including it in a Debian release disallows my intention, than I JC> would not approve it. Absolutely, inclusion in the Debian distribution will _not_ prevent any inclusion of the plplot_octave interface into a future release of Octave. One of my intentions in packaging it for Debian is to give more visibility to your great software (as well as to PLplot itself), such that development can be speeded up. A better plotting interface is really needed for Octave at present. JC> As I told before, my intention is to enable it to be used as JC> Octave is, with a GNU General Public License (which I have never JC> fully read :-)) . If you want to add/include in all modified JC> sources or scripts the GNU licence header, I will be happy (if JC> this is still possible after I have put the package JC> un-intentionally in the public domain). It is too much work to do that, and as it is getting colder and colder (slink freeze is imminent) I just changed the copyright file to satisfy your desire. I am attaching the modified copyright below. Debian developers: do you think that this is acceptable? JC> Anyway, I already have latter versions, but they are not JC> packaged for public usage. Great. They will appear in Debian 2.2 (or 3.0?). -- Rafael Laboissiere Institut de la Communication Parlee | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] UPRESS A CNRS 5009 / INPG | Voice: +33 4.76.57.48.49 46, av. Felix Viallet | Fax: +33 4.76.57.47.10 F-38031 Grenoble CEDEX 1 France | URL: http://www.icp.inpg.fr/~rafael = /usr/doc/octave-plplot/copyright This package was debianized by Rafael Laboissiere [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:20:19 +0200. This package was built from a tarball sent by Joao Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to the octave-sources mailing list (see the announcement in http://www.che.wisc.edu/octave/mailing-lists/octave-sources/1998/5). Copyright: The files in the source distribution have no copyright notice, but by explicit request from the author, the following terms apply: Copyright (C) 1998 Joao Cardoso. All rights reserved. This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. [In Debian systems, see file /usr/doc/copyright/GPL.] This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. Many files under /usr/share/octave/site/m/PLplot have the following line: ## Copyright (C) 1996 John W. Eaton and were released under the GPL. They were modified by Joao Cardoso and are assumed to be released under the same licencing terms. -- Joao Cardoso | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] INESC, R. Jose Falcao 110 | tel: + 351 2 2094322 4050 Porto, Portugal | fax: + 351 2 2008487
Re: octave-plplot: intention to package
On 16-Oct-1998, Joao Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I agree with the enclosed copyright notice. | Octave's author also has no objections. | | Please correct, if still possible, my e-mail address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > The files in the source distribution have no copyright notice, but by | > explicit request from the author, the following terms apply: | > | > Copyright (C) 1998 Joao Cardoso. All rights reserved. | > | > This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it | > under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the | > Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your | > option) any later version. [In Debian systems, see file | > /usr/doc/copyright/GPL.] | > | > This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but | > WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of | > MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU | > General Public License for more details. Oops, I noticed a the following problem before, but then forgot about it when I actually replied. I do have an objection to this copyright statement. I am not a lawyer, but I think that if you are releasing something under the terms of the GPL, you should NOT write `All rights reserved' because you are not claiming to have the exclusive right to distribute (one of the rights that copyright allows you to reserve for yourself alone). So please remove the `All rights reserved.' statement. Also, the text should just read Copyright (C) 1998 Joao Cardoso This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version. This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. exactly as the appendix to the GPL says. I suppose adding a line about where to find the text of the GPL on Debian systems would be ok, but I would add that as a separate paragraph after the information about how to obtain a copy from the FSF. I would write: Users of Debian systems may also find a copy of the GNU GPL in the file /usr/doc/copyright/GPL. Do other Debian packages that are supposed to be released under the terms of the GPL include `All rights reserved' in their copyright notices? If so, can you tell me which ones? Thanks, jwe
Re: octave-plplot: intention to package
"John W. Eaton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Do other Debian packages that are supposed to be released under the terms of the GPL include `All rights reserved' in their copyright notices? If so, can you tell me which ones? What I have heard is that `all rights reserved' is just a generic phrase used to secure copyright, it doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't a license that allows you to copy it.
Re: octave-plplot: intention to package
Ben Pfaff writes: > What I have heard is that `all rights reserved' is just a generic phrase > used to secure copyright, it doesn't necessarily mean that there isn't a > license that allows you to copy it. "All rights reserved" was required by a long-obsolete copyright treaty. It is meaningless under the Berne convention. It does no harm here since the subsequent license clearly supersedes it, but it is confusing and should not be used. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
