Re: package update policy
* Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061203 20:48]: Ritesh Raj Sarraf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just wanted to know if Debian has a policy (timeline) for inclusion of a newer release of a software. No, it doesn't. Individual maintainers may set such a policy for their own packages, but Debian has no distribution-wide policy on how fast newer releases of software are included. It's not really possible to set such a policy across the board; sometimes one never wants to incorporate a newer release of a piece of software for some reason. (I couldn't resist nit-picking, sorry) With the exception that release policy specifies: | 5. General | | (a) Supportable | |Packages in the archive must not be so buggy or out of date we |refuse to support them. But of course, what that means can be quite different in different cases - so in the end, it is (mostly) the maintainers decision (as you wrote). Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
package update policy
Hi, I'm not trying to start any argument. The latest nvidia stable release (9629) was made on November 7th, 2006. But it is still not included into Debian (testing/unstable/experimental). I noticed that it is already part of Ubuntu Feisty. I just wanted to know if Debian has a policy (timeline) for inclusion of a newer release of a software. I'm bringing nvidia-kernel-source package as an example because afaik it doesn't affect the package freeze for Debian because it is not part of the stable release. Still, since there is a common maintainer for the package for both the distributions, does Debian have a deadline for such scenarios ? My understanding is that since Debian is completely a voluntary based distribution, no one can demand a date for inclusion/updation of any package. Thanks, Ritesh -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com Necessity is the mother of invention. Stealing logic from one person is plagiarism, stealing from many is research. The great are those who achieve the impossible, the petty are those who cannot - rrs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package update policy
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:38:15 +0530 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: The latest nvidia stable release (9629) was made on November 7th, 2006. But it is still not included into Debian (testing/unstable/experimental). I noticed that it is already part of Ubuntu Feisty. Didn't you answer this question allready yourself: http://bugs.debian.org/397505 I dont't think 9xxx will be uploaded to unstable until Etch. Maybe Randall can tell you more. -- ^^^| Evgeni -SargentD- Golov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) d(O_o)b | PGP-Key-ID: 0xAC15B50C -|- | WWW: http://www.die-welt.net ICQ: 54116744 / \| IRC: #sod @ irc.german-freakz.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package update policy
Ritesh Raj Sarraf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just wanted to know if Debian has a policy (timeline) for inclusion of a newer release of a software. No, it doesn't. Individual maintainers may set such a policy for their own packages, but Debian has no distribution-wide policy on how fast newer releases of software are included. It's not really possible to set such a policy across the board; sometimes one never wants to incorporate a newer release of a piece of software for some reason. I'm bringing nvidia-kernel-source package as an example because afaik it doesn't affect the package freeze for Debian because it is not part of the stable release. Er, well, yes it is, to the extent that non-free is part of Debian at all. non-free is frozen and released just like everything else; it's just not part of Debian proper. My understanding is that since Debian is completely a voluntary based distribution, no one can demand a date for inclusion/updation of any package. Correct. Right now in particular many of us are holding non-bug-fix releases of the software packages we maintain so as not to disrupt the archive right before a hopeful freeze for the etch release. For instance, once etch is frozen, I'll upload a new development snapshot of gnubg that fixes a bunch of minor bugs, none of which are important enough to try to rush into the release when new development snapshots often have other more significant bugs that take a while to track down. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package update policy
Evgeni Golov wrote: On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 00:38:15 +0530 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: The latest nvidia stable release (9629) was made on November 7th, 2006. But it is still not included into Debian (testing/unstable/experimental). I noticed that it is already part of Ubuntu Feisty. Didn't you answer this question allready yourself: http://bugs.debian.org/397505 I dont't think 9xxx will be uploaded to unstable until Etch. Maybe Randall can tell you more. Yes, but I think nvidia-kernel-source has no effect on Etch's release in any way. Also nvidia-kernel-source has never been part of testing as per the package's qa page. Thanks, Ritesh -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf RESEARCHUT - http://www.researchut.com Necessity is the mother of invention. Stealing logic from one person is plagiarism, stealing from many is research. The great are those who achieve the impossible, the petty are those who cannot - rrs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package update policy
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:21:44 +0530 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: Yes, but I think nvidia-kernel-source has no effect on Etch's release in any way. Also nvidia-kernel-source has never been part of testing as per the package's qa page. It was in testing and was then kicked [1], now it is waiting to enter testing again [2]. It does affec etch release very well, because I don't think anyone wants to see Debian Stable without support for NVIDIA grafic-chips. If you want to have 9629, take the sources of the 9625 package from experimental and hack in the new nvidia.run, it isn't very hard (i've did so once i had a nvidia card). [1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/news/20060418T210817Z.html [2] http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=nvidia-graphics-drivers -- ^^^| Evgeni -SargentD- Golov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) d(O_o)b | PGP-Key-ID: 0xAC15B50C -|- | WWW: http://www.die-welt.net ICQ: 54116744 / \| IRC: #sod @ irc.german-freakz.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
