Re: peace of mind
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 03:25:47AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 05:09:57PM +0100, Robert Lemmen wrote: not as much as would be ideal, but I have been running it on one machine, adapted a few things that I run for starting, and trieid the monitoring/restart. but really, my main concerns are fueled by pages like this [0]. Am I missing something, or are statements like this fraught with much headscratching and bewilderment? : Note that this is a promise, not an eternal guarantee. [0] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/ C/libc: Nothing will ever be deprecated/removed. What's that you say? gets(3)? Linux kernel: never removes/changes interfaces. That's why it still has devfs. Oh, wait... Kind regards, David -- /) David Weinehall t...@debian.org /) Rime on my window (\ // ~ // Diamond-white roses of fire // \) http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/(/ Beautiful hoar-frost (/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141026084339.gd8...@hirohito.acc.umu.se
Re: peace of mind
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 03:25:47AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Am I missing something, or are statements like this fraught with much headscratching and bewilderment? : Note that this is a promise, not an eternal guarantee. [0] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/ IMO another way to read that would be: This should stay stable for forever. Forever is a very very long time, so there could be theoretically a case where we might be forced to make a change In case you want clarity, ask upstream. -- Regards, Olav -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141024123721.gc32...@bkor.dhs.org
Re: peace of mind
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 05:09:57PM +0100, Robert Lemmen wrote: not as much as would be ideal, but I have been running it on one machine, adapted a few things that I run for starting, and trieid the monitoring/restart. but really, my main concerns are fueled by pages like this [0]. Am I missing something, or are statements like this fraught with much headscratching and bewilderment? : Note that this is a promise, not an eternal guarantee. [0] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/InterfaceStabilityPromise/ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141023142546.GH29294@tal
Peace of Mind (Please, give us some!)
Hello, fellows. First, I'm correcting the misspelling of the God dammit subject. I'm not a native English speaker, but since it's the so called universal language to communicate with everyone else subscribed to it, I think everyone should, at least, check grammar and spelling before submitting messages to the list, so that we're all able to communicate using the same, correct *code*. Second, it is my belief that everyone (or at least, most people) subscribed to this list is interested in Debian development specific topics. Please, stop flooding this list with non-development, babling and crying-over-my-pillow-because-the-debian-project-is-not-taking-care-of-my-sorry-ass-needs-related stuff. Third, *systemd* issue has been, as many here pointed before me, througly discussed in several opportunities - and IMHO, adoption of software in releases is *not* directly _development_ related, being, instead, maybe administrative, project or something else. If such a list does not exist, I'd recommend it to be created, so that there would be a specific list for people to send their oppinion regarding those concerns to. Fourth, AFAIK - and please, correct me if I'm wrong - this list should be more concerned about improving collaborative work and software in the Debian Project, with information, with elder/senior/more experienced developers helping/guiding/providing orientation for younger/newcomer developers, and discussions about software functionality (and I mean *functionality*, not *adoption/choice*) and implementation. Again, I wouldn't mind receiving tons of e-mails containing technical information regarding software development, but I'm not interested in a single mail regarding why you are so sad that Debian Project picked systemd or even an 90 year-old lady to control your system services. I'm not advocating in favour of either *here* because I don't thnk this is the purpose of this list. Fifth, please, Google for and read about *netiquette*, mostly regarding *subject* and start writting consistent, direct, specific subjects. Best regards, Fabiano. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5446b9d1.8010...@itgen.com.br
