Re: why hijacking is bad (and salvaging is good) Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team
On Saturday 02 June 2012 05:36:04 Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 06/02/2012 04:43 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > > now that I notice the subject change I also notice the original > > subject... > > > > hi Thomas 8-) > > LOL ! > > I'm amazed that it's seems I'm capable of creating huge uncontrollable > threads out of nowhere (eg: this isn't the first time). No one is perfect, but in this paticular case, I think your good will, patience, complete lack of hostality and desire to communicate the whole issue, has become a victim of what I'd more or less qualify as an unlawful or inappropriate interference. So, thank you for your commitment, and for being that patient and endurant! > I swear its never intended ! :) OMG, I hope we don't need any oath-taking ceremonies any time we try to improve something within Debian. -- pub 4096R/0E4BD0AB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206021046.50162.danc...@spnet.net
Re: why hijacking is bad (and salvaging is good) Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team
On 06/02/2012 04:43 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > now that I notice the subject change I also notice the original subject... > > hi Thomas 8-) > LOL ! I'm amazed that it's seems I'm capable of creating huge uncontrollable threads out of nowhere (eg: this isn't the first time). I swear its never intended ! :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fc98a24.3020...@debian.org
Re: why hijacking is bad (and salvaging is good) Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team
now that I notice the subject change I also notice the original subject... hi Thomas 8-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206012243.38011.hol...@layer-acht.org
Re: why hijacking is bad (and salvaging is good) Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Freitag, 1. Juni 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: > [...] >> This is very different from what some people mean when they use the word >> hijack. In part, I think we have a terminological problem here; I don't >> know if it's a matter of non-native speakers using the word differently, >> but the word "hijack" clearly refers to a /hostile act/. By definition, >> anything that could legitimately be called a hijack should not be >> permitted; and anything that we believe should be permitted should not be >> referred to as "hijacking". Otherwise, people will infer that all kinds >> of >> inappropriate and hostile behavior is ok when it shouldn't be. >> >> And when people *do* engage in that kind of hostile behavior, yes, I think >> it should be referred to the TC and we should disapprove of it. But when >> people are taking reasonable steps to confirm that a package is abandoned >> before taking it over - let's call this "salvage" - I have no problem with >> that; it should be encouraged and supported. I kinda like "Package reappropriation" myself :) > > thanks for explaining, makes completly sense to me now! :-) > > (And I do think it's partly a language issue. For non-native speakers "hijack" > is probably a bit more romantic and less obviously evil 8-) > > > cheers, > Holger > > (And for those poor people (should they exist...) just reading my mail and not > Steve's and thus having no idea what is ment with "salvaging a package": go > read Steve's mail.) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120601.16740.hol...@layer-acht.org > -- All programmers are playwrights, and all computers are lousy actors. #define sizeof(x) rand() :wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAO6P2QS07EHUODXJ=RdudQDzqBz88=DvhA1ad=7xzwdmcbf...@mail.gmail.com
why hijacking is bad (and salvaging is good) Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team
Hi, On Freitag, 1. Juni 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: [...] > This is very different from what some people mean when they use the word > hijack. In part, I think we have a terminological problem here; I don't > know if it's a matter of non-native speakers using the word differently, > but the word "hijack" clearly refers to a /hostile act/. By definition, > anything that could legitimately be called a hijack should not be > permitted; and anything that we believe should be permitted should not be > referred to as "hijacking". Otherwise, people will infer that all kinds > of > inappropriate and hostile behavior is ok when it shouldn't be. > > And when people *do* engage in that kind of hostile behavior, yes, I think > it should be referred to the TC and we should disapprove of it. But when > people are taking reasonable steps to confirm that a package is abandoned > before taking it over - let's call this "salvage" - I have no problem with > that; it should be encouraged and supported. thanks for explaining, makes completly sense to me now! :-) (And I do think it's partly a language issue. For non-native speakers "hijack" is probably a bit more romantic and less obviously evil 8-) cheers, Holger (And for those poor people (should they exist...) just reading my mail and not Steve's and thus having no idea what is ment with "salvaging a package": go read Steve's mail.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120601.16740.hol...@layer-acht.org
