Re: www.debian.org and users information

2005-05-09 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 01:25:48AM -0500, Adam M. wrote:
 Kevin Mark wrote:
 
 Hi DD folks,
 Sarge is now approaching zero kelvin and folks are scrambing to get the
 last few bugs squashed. I was recently thinking about why the non-clued
 folks bash Debian with incomplete or inaccurate facts and a way to
 address that. I think there should be a section on the main page that
 contains links to cluefull faq to clear the FUD and to shed light on
   
 
 That would imply we actually care about the FUD. Having an in-your-face
 FAQ about all these points would be OK, but people spreading the FUD
 would not care regardless.
 
 There is a group of people that will not read any manual, but think they
 still know everything regardless. They will look at
 stable/testing/unstable and proclaim from the bottom of their orifices
 that they know what these stand for. They will ignore the Debian
 Reference at
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html even
 though it is two clicks away from the main page (click on Docs then the
 Debian Reference).
 
 So the bottom line is people that listen/spreading FUD will probably not
 be addressed by this FAQ because they are not interested in reading
 documentation in the first place.
 

However, a single URL to refer to in anti-FUD responses is better than
telling people (perhaps open-minded management) to click all over the Debian
website.

regards

Andrew


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Re: www.debian.org and users information

2005-05-06 Thread Adam M.
Kevin Mark wrote:

Hi DD folks,
Sarge is now approaching zero kelvin and folks are scrambing to get the
last few bugs squashed. I was recently thinking about why the non-clued
folks bash Debian with incomplete or inaccurate facts and a way to
address that. I think there should be a section on the main page that
contains links to cluefull faq to clear the FUD and to shed light on
  

That would imply we actually care about the FUD. Having an in-your-face
FAQ about all these points would be OK, but people spreading the FUD
would not care regardless.

There is a group of people that will not read any manual, but think they
still know everything regardless. They will look at
stable/testing/unstable and proclaim from the bottom of their orifices
that they know what these stand for. They will ignore the Debian
Reference at
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html even
though it is two clicks away from the main page (click on Docs then the
Debian Reference).

So the bottom line is people that listen/spreading FUD will probably not
be addressed by this FAQ because they are not interested in reading
documentation in the first place.

- Adam


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www.debian.org and users information

2005-05-04 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi DD folks,
Sarge is now approaching zero kelvin and folks are scrambing to get the
last few bugs squashed. I was recently thinking about why the non-clued
folks bash Debian with incomplete or inaccurate facts and a way to
address that. I think there should be a section on the main page that
contains links to cluefull faq to clear the FUD and to shed light on
these issues. Here is a short list of some things that I would include
on the front page:
* what's the difference between stable, testing and unstable and who
  should use them
* Why was past releases took so long and how these issues are being addressed
* the plan for the next Debian release: etch
* What are the FAQs about Xorg in debian
* a guide to the new debian installer
* the faqs about CDD (custom debian distributions)
* Important Debian news: 
Sarge is frozen -- what it means to new and
current users
Upgrade notes for woody users 
* a guide to sidegrading rpm based distro to Debian
* What is Ubuntu and how does it relate to Debian
* What is Knoppix and how does it relate to Debian
* What is Mephis and how does it relate to Debian
* SATA FAQs
* the future of documentation that is under the GFDL in Debian
* the future of binary firmware in Debian
* Ways to install Debian

My reasoning is that while some of there are addressed somewhere on the
website, people tend to be lazy. We should put this info front and
center so a quick look will immediately lead them to good informed
facts.
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