FREEZE RESCHEDULED

1999-11-07 Thread Richard Braakman
I was too hasty when declaring this freeze.  Adam di Carlo assured me that
the boot-floppies are just not ready yet, and won't be for a number of
weeks even if they get help.  Also, the count of release-critical bugs
is going back up as fast as it came down.  (I think that many of them
are not really release-critical, but there are so many that just
evaluating them takes a significant amount of time.)

I hoped that a week or two of old-style freeze could get potato in
shape in time for a mid-December release, but it's just not going to
happen.

Adam says that the boot-floppies can be ready for freezing on December
1st, and of release-quality on January 1st, and that those dates are
somewhat optimistic.

I think that freezing on either of those dates is not useful, due to the
winter festivities and the end of the world.  I'm rescheduling the
freeze for mid-January, the weekend of the 15th and 16th.  This will
be a freeze according to the original plan for potato, with all the
pieces ready beforehand and a fast track to a release in February.

Please keep this freeze date in mind; don't start anything that you
can't finish before that time.  In particular, with library upgrades
and package reorganizations, keep in mind that other packages will
have to be recompiled.  I'll ask the archive maintainers to actually
hold back such packages starting around December 20th.

The good news is that James and I spent a day processing most of
Incoming in preparation for the freeze (and I apologize to James for
not actually freezing after all that), so the backlog is now gone.

In the meantime, the boot-floppies NEED HELP.  If you want to get
involved, you can check out their code with this command:
  cvs -d [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/debian-boot co boot-floppies
Make sure that CVS_RSH is set to ssh.

The mailing list for coordination is debian-boot; CVS update messages
are also sent there.  The bug reports are collected under the
package name boot-floppies.

Richard Braakman



Re: FREEZE RESCHEDULED

1999-11-07 Thread Kevin Dalley
Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was too hasty when declaring this freeze.  Adam di Carlo assured me that
 the boot-floppies are just not ready yet, and won't be for a number of
 weeks even if they get help.  Also, the count of release-critical bugs
 is going back up as fast as it came down.  (I think that many of them
 are not really release-critical, but there are so many that just
 evaluating them takes a significant amount of time.)

One of the best ways of getting the release-critical bugs under
control is to freeze potato.  As long as we can upload packages, we
will upload bugs.  If we freeze now, we can reduce the number of bugs
to a reasonable level over the next few weeks.  By the time
boot-floppies are ready the bug count will be at a manageable level,
and potato will be ready for release.




Re: FREEZE RESCHEDULED

1999-11-07 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Nov 07, 1999 at 06:23:44AM -0800, Kevin Dalley wrote:
 Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I was too hasty when declaring this freeze.  Adam di Carlo assured me that
  the boot-floppies are just not ready yet, and won't be for a number of
  weeks even if they get help.  Also, the count of release-critical bugs
  is going back up as fast as it came down.  (I think that many of them
  are not really release-critical, but there are so many that just
  evaluating them takes a significant amount of time.)
 
 One of the best ways of getting the release-critical bugs under
 control is to freeze potato.  As long as we can upload packages, we
 will upload bugs.  If we freeze now, we can reduce the number of bugs
 to a reasonable level over the next few weeks.  By the time
 boot-floppies are ready the bug count will be at a manageable level,
 and potato will be ready for release.

How about a light freeze where we don't accept new packages until the next
unstable. Then atleast we don't age the distribution, and we can still
upgrade packages, and fix bugs.

Ben



Re: FREEZE RESCHEDULED

1999-11-07 Thread Hartmut Koptein
  One of the best ways of getting the release-critical bugs under
  control is to freeze potato.  As long as we can upload packages, we
  will upload bugs.  If we freeze now, we can reduce the number of bugs
  to a reasonable level over the next few weeks.  By the time
  boot-floppies are ready the bug count will be at a manageable level,
  and potato will be ready for release.
 
 How about a light freeze where we don't accept new packages until the next
 unstable. Then atleast we don't age the distribution, and we can still
 upgrade packages, and fix bugs.

Every year with the same problems :-) 

This 'pre-release' will do it if we don't work on the new unstable; this one is 
only 
to upload new versions. 


Regards,


   Hartmut