Re: Debian on the Sharp Zaurus/SL-5xxx

2002-06-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 09:32:31PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > I'd be interested to hear your opinions about whether they would indeed
> > be useful, and how difficult they would be to implement.
> 
> Replying to to a html file is very inconvenient so if you want proper
> comments please post it as normal text to the debian-dpkg list.

To save you the trouble of cutting and pasting:

Exclude arbitrary filesets from being unpacked
This is already planned for a future dpkg release. Ideally, it would be
possible for binary packages themselves to specify some information about what
can be safely excluded.

Strip down status file
Exclusion of Description, Priority, Section, and possibly others, would save a
significant amount of space in the package database. Adam Heath: There are
plans to do this. If you look at status, there are empty package paragraphs.
dselect uses these, and they polute the dpkg runtime memory. We have plans to
remove these entries.

Optionally disable or compress available-old and status-old backups
Disk space and speed savings

Optionally unpack files in-place
Dangerous, but would provide significant space savings for upgrades. Might it
be better to remove (but not purge) and then install the new version? Doing
this frequently could provoke lurking bugs in maintainer scripts.

Exclusion of certain control files (?)
md5sums and shlibs could be excluded in most environments. templates also tends
to be quite large, but I don't know what can be done about that. Exclude
certain translations? It might be more effective to use a filesystem which can
effectively store many small files, as most of the cost seems to be from large
block sizes.Probably done most effectively with a separate tool.

Automated slicing of packages across different filesystems
For example, allow the user to say "for package X, place hierarchy Y at
location Z instead, and symlink Y -> Z". This would allow larger packages,
which might not even be able to be unpacked in internal storage, to gracefully
flow onto removable media. This probably belongs in a separate tool.

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Bug#150135: galeon-common: tries to open non-existant file

2002-06-16 Thread Michael Neuffer
Quoting Erich Schubert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> reassign 150135 dpkg
> thanks
> 
> > Setting up galeon-common (1.2.5-1) ...
> > Failed to open `/etc/gconf/schemas/galeon.schemas': No such file or
> > directory
> > dpkg: error processing galeon-common (--configure):
> >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> 
> I think dpkg is broken somehow: the file IS in the galeon-common-package.
> 
> dpkg -c galeon-common_1.2.5-1_all.deb | grep schema
> [...] ./etc/gconf/schemas/galeon.schemas
> 
> I've seen this problem before, it must come from dpkg's conffile
> mechanism. If you "dpkg --purge galeon galeon-common galeon-nautilus"
> and then install galeon again it should work fine.
> I don't know how to reproduce it.

I didn't have galeon installed. 

After a purge of galeon-common galeon-nautilus and a reinstall
it worked just fine.

> (Note that the file was in the galeon package itself before, maybe
> moving conffiles from one package to another doesn't work properly?)
> 
> Do you know what the previous version of galeon was that you had
> installed?

The last one that was in unstable yesterday. 

Cheers
   Mike


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Processed: Re: Bug#150135: galeon-common: tries to open non-existant file

2002-06-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> reassign 150135 dpkg
Bug#150135: galeon-common: tries to open non-existant file
Bug reassigned from package `galeon-common' to `dpkg'.

> thanks
Stopping processing here.

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Bug#150156: dpkg: conffile diffs don't work

2002-06-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
Package: dpkg
Version: 1.9.21
Severity: normal

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When I choose to see a diff for a modified conffile, I get returned to the
prompt immediately, no trace of any diff output.


PS: Sorry if this has already been reported, I started skimming the list of
bugs against this package but gave up after about a hundred...

PPS: Kinda bad to have this bug in woody, isn't it?

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Debian Release: 3.0
Architecture: powerpc
Kernel: Linux tibook 2.4.19-pre8-ben0-xfs-fblogo-lolat #12 Fri May 31 18:15:41 
CEST 2002 ppc
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=de_CH

Versions of packages dpkg depends on:
ii  libc62.2.5-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libncurses5  5.2.20020112a-8 Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2   1:2.95.4-7  The GNU stdc++ library

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Bug#147183: I suspect hardware problems

2002-06-16 Thread Peter Cordes

 I've seen weird stuff happen on my system, and the stuff described here
looks similar.  (My problem was data errors due to insufficient power supply
capacity.  This usually caused segfaults.  The solution was to lower the CPU
clock frequency.)

 The problem seems to be that tar crashes or something when run from dpkg,
unless tar's code is already in the disk cache.  (This is the only
difference that running tar a few times beforehand could cause, that I can
think of.)  If disk caching is making a difference, caching of the .deb
might also be making a difference maybe relevant to the problems
extracting control files).

Kurt> Now that you mention it, the machine *is* acting somewhat strange; so far
Kurt> it's frozen twice in the middle of reading man pages.

 Random hangs are very indicative of hardware problems.

Pekka> Sounds to me like an eccentric kernel bug

 If so, it's probably in the ide or SCSI hardware driver Kurt is using.

>> your system is fundamentally screwed up
Kurt> Always a possibility. Any way for me to check this?

 Use very conservative settings to try to avoid hardware errors.  Don't
worry about performance for now.  What you want to do is see if things
change when you give the hardware a large margin of error.  If that makes
the problems go away, you can try to figure out what's going on so you can
get decent performance without errors from your system.

 If you using an IDE system, try using hdparm to turn off some IDE features.
For starters, try without DMA.  You might also want to use ide-smart to ask
your disk how it's feeling :) Your IO system might have occasional errors
when reading and writing simultaneously. This is especially likely if you
have disks on separate IDE channels. (However, I haven't heard of this kind
of problem on SMP i686 chipsets. Crappy i4 and 586 and chipsets had these
kinds of problems.) Try underclocking your CPU/RAM.

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