the .org proposal or join forces

2005-12-07 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi

As discussed on irc I start a thread about the .org proposal.
Ok at first a short summary.

As all of you know we are organized in local teams.
There is a french team, a german team,  and so on 
Well there are reasons for that. Some tasks have to be done alone (for example 
a german translation). But there are many tasks especially in the development 
where we have to stick together. Of course we are all working on 
developer.skolelinux.no and so the developers are already working together.
But nevertheless we can stick more together with the .org proposal, means:

What about working more on www.skolelinux.org and doing blogs on
planet.skolelinux.org, getting email accounts on @skolelinux.org and having a 
space called people.skolelinux.org .
So we can provide general information of the development of 
Skolelinux/Debian-Edu there (of course in english).

If we agree there is an other topic which has to be discussed here:

As a few of you know in the german team we started a process called 
New Member Process were we take care of the new member and see that we can 
integrate him/her and that he/she can get the work he/she wants to do.

(It would be nice if someone else from the german team can describe the 
process here!!!).

To summarize the intention of the .org-proposal in one sentence let me say:
We are one project and we should stick together and join forces and we have 
to show it, so let the skolelinux development become stronger with that.

I hope that I can make it clear what the .org-proposal means and why i 
started this thread.

Greetings
Steffen


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Re: the .org proposal or join forces

2005-12-07 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 10:41 Wed 07 Dec , Steffen Joeris wrote:
 Hi
 
 As discussed on irc I start a thread about the .org proposal.
 Ok at first a short summary.
 
 As all of you know we are organized in local teams.
 There is a french team, a german team,  and so on 
 Well there are reasons for that. Some tasks have to be done alone (for 
 example 
 a german translation). But there are many tasks especially in the development 
 where we have to stick together. Of course we are all working on 
 developer.skolelinux.no and so the developers are already working together.
 But nevertheless we can stick more together with the .org proposal, means:
 
 What about working more on www.skolelinux.org and doing blogs on
 planet.skolelinux.org, getting email accounts on @skolelinux.org and having a 
 space called people.skolelinux.org .
 So we can provide general information of the development of 
 Skolelinux/Debian-Edu there (of course in english).


hmm, that's very interesting and of course I agree with you.  I think
that each team don't really know what the others do, thus maybe some
stuffs will be done twice, and that's the bad way.

 If we agree there is an other topic which has to be discussed here:
 
 As a few of you know in the german team we started a process called 
 New Member Process were we take care of the new member and see that we can 
 integrate him/her and that he/she can get the work he/she wants to do.
 
 (It would be nice if someone else from the german team can describe the 
 process here!!!).

Yes, I think so.
But I hope not so hard than becoming official debian developper ;)

 To summarize the intention of the .org-proposal in one sentence let me say:
 We are one project and we should stick together and join forces and we have 
 to show it, so let the skolelinux development become stronger with that.
 
 I hope that I can make it clear what the .org-proposal means and why i 
 started this thread.

Friendly,
-- 
Xavier Oswald


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Re: the .org proposal or join forces

2005-12-07 Thread Thierry STAUDER
Hello Stefen

Thanks for this proposition,

For the first topic:

Several month ago, as we started to work in the project, we're told to not work
too much on skolelinux.org ... The plone system has a lot of bug, and
everything will be migrated to an Ezplubish system ... this work, made by Alex
B. was announced for september 2005 ...

For the french team, we've translated all the waiting pages on the portal...
Therefor i agree with your proposal to work more on skolelinux.org

As far as I can see, the're not a lot of new things on the portal.

To enforce your proposal, if the plone system is still a problem, we can propose
to replace it with a Spip system, which is powerfull free CMS. see
http://www.spip.net/en

For the second topic:

The Debian-edu developper program is a very goog idea.
The goal is to win new participants, we just have to take care on this process
to make the participation easier...not harder...
I think that the welcoming of new participants is a part of this project, were
we have to bo better than what is done at the moment.
For this a topic on this subject would be usefull

Thierry
French Skolelinux team

Steffen Joeris [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi

 As discussed on irc I start a thread about the .org proposal.
 Ok at first a short summary.

 As all of you know we are organized in local teams.
 There is a french team, a german team,  and so on 
 Well there are reasons for that. Some tasks have to be done alone (for
 example
 a german translation). But there are many tasks especially in the development
 where we have to stick together. Of course we are all working on
 developer.skolelinux.no and so the developers are already working together.
 But nevertheless we can stick more together with the .org proposal, means:

 What about working more on www.skolelinux.org and doing blogs on
 planet.skolelinux.org, getting email accounts on @skolelinux.org and having a
 space called people.skolelinux.org .
 So we can provide general information of the development of
 Skolelinux/Debian-Edu there (of course in english).

 If we agree there is an other topic which has to be discussed here:

 As a few of you know in the german team we started a process called
 New Member Process were we take care of the new member and see that we can
 integrate him/her and that he/she can get the work he/she wants to do.

 (It would be nice if someone else from the german team can describe the
 process here!!!).

 To summarize the intention of the .org-proposal in one sentence let me say:
 We are one project and we should stick together and join forces and we have
 to show it, so let the skolelinux development become stronger with that.

 I hope that I can make it clear what the .org-proposal means and why i
 started this thread.

 Greetings
 Steffen




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Re: the .org proposal or join forces

2005-12-07 Thread Patrick Willam

Steffen Joeris wrote
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What about working more on www.skolelinux.org and doing blogs on
planet.skolelinux.org, getting email accounts on @skolelinux.org and having a 
space called people.skolelinux.org .
So we can provide general information of the development of 
Skolelinux/Debian-Edu there (of course in english).

snip/

Yes!
But why of course in english?

The german team is researching and evaluating software for quite some time
now to come up with a technical solution which has to provide us with...
 . different tools (cms/portal, wiki, blog, planet, email, ...)
 . all this integrated -- as seemless as neccessary -- into a whole site
 . support for different workflow (from none/loose to specific)
 . flexible but efficient support for responsabilities
 . good support for translation of all relevant pieces of the site
 . decent syntax-/file-/doctypes support and import/export mechanisms

Its intended to be the base for a renewed portal which can and *is* used
by as many Debian-edu'ers and Free Schoolsoftware activists as possible.
(In opposite to the not-so-well-connected 'portals' used by the different
groups up to now.)

Biggest hurdle since the beginning:
To have the technical basement for an /integrated/ easy and nice translation
workflow. Not everyone of us wants to have to work with DocBook- and
.po-files for getting the job done. ;-)
We regard this as a key feature.

As i've looked at those french wikipages (that were just recently mentioned
as the french guys asked for CVS) i realized that there are quite some
things going on which lack attention, reviewing and translation by/for all
of us.

A good shared portal should attenuate this itch.

My 2 cent.
Best wishes,
  Patrick

PS: Would it be a hassle to go for debian-edu.org?

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Re: the .org proposal or join forces

2005-12-07 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Patrick Willam]
 But why of course in english?

Because so few of you are able to read Norwegian Nynorsk?


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