Re: policy for pools?
On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 01:10:56PM +0100, Steffen Joeris wrote: > I am curious about the future situation of the pool-handling, means the > skolelinux pools of packages. > > My question is how we will do our work in the future? > Is there a policy for uploading packages to skolelinux? Well, for the sarge-based pool I don't believe we have any clear policy, but for the woody-based (stable) we have earlier agreed on send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask if anyone had objections to the new upload. And only a few people have access to add new packages or overwrite packages in the pool for Venus (stable woody-based). When upgrading packages in our test-pool (which the Sarge-pool now is), I believe it's ok to just upload new version of packages for bugfixing. For those of us that reads the commit-list the changes appears there. For _new_ packages to the test-pool I believe it would be nice with an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask for objections to the upload. Comments? Of course these "policies" should have been written down somewhere, but .. the well known lack of time. > Ok we have three kinds of packages. > > 1. Backports > 2. native skolelinux packages (LTSP, webmin*stuff, ...) > 3. own skolelinux packages (keep the minimum because we are normally > including > all packages into Debian) We should try to keep the nubmer of backported packages as low as possible. The best thing to do if we want new packages in Debian-Edu/Skolelinux is make sure they are present in Debian. > So this was just the current summary. > Currently Finn-Arne is working on reprepro and on a transition to get the > current pools in reprepro, then we will have an upload queue in the future > (Thanks for that finnarne, although i am bothering you all the time with > that). I'm looking forward to this! :) > My question now is do we need a policy? Yes, our socalled policy should probably have been written down on a webpage on d.skolelinux.no. Maybe included in the "Guidelines for developer .." [1]? > Will we make a keyring with gpg keys for uploading, or will we accept > packages > from everyone? Either a keyring (probably the best) or manually ack'ing of packages. Or maybe a mix with manually ack'ing of packages uploaded by people not in the keyring. > Will we make source-only uploads? (I prefer not to make it, but will mention > it as a possibility). I would prefer source-only uploads as we then will be sure that the packages do not FTBFS. > Who can upload packages? Well, probably those who are interested .. and are able to behave. For the stable archive I believe that only a few persons should be able. > Who is interested in that? Too few? :) > Is there a need for help on archive (reprepro)? Finn-Arne? > Maybe some specifications about uploading after the transition. > > So what do you think on this topic??? > > Please take this mail as the start of a discussion or reject it if you see no > need in discussing it, i just write this mail because i want to talk about > it. We have not (yet) had any problems with people misusing their rights to the archive pools, so this is not a big deal in my eyes. But if a missing policy keeps new developers from uploading packages to our test(ing)-pool, it is more important. If someone have time to write a policy-draft, I'll gladly read through and comment it. > P.S. If someone of you will come to the meeting in january and need > accomodation for some more days during the week because of a cheaper flight > or so just let me know i will find a way ;) Unfortunately I'm not able to attend this gathering, but afaik both Finn-Arne and Petter will come so you could perhaps continue parts of this discussion there.. - Werner [1] http://d.skolelinux.no/dokumentasjon/contributing-developers.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 550] email clients automatically configured for postoffice with imaps
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=550 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-15 08:26 --- How would you implement such a check ? --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advise for new default configuration
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:04:34AM +0100, RalfGesellensetter wrote: > this sounds promising. Absolutely! :) > > - Proceed with my idea (and change the domain name used for > > testing to cfservd.intern for example) > > - Opt-out solution so that manually removing the cfengine.intern > > does not install this configuration on new workstations > > one of those - please note that: > > - during installation process, the workstations might lack access to > net/tjener - so checking means some risk. Can't we assume that main server (tjener) and network connection is in place when workstations and thin client servers are installed? I think so. > - until entered in dhcpd.conf, workstation IPs might change > - pre06 adds etherwake > - some gui/webmin interface would be nice ;) If I remember correctly the cfengine-setup needs some keys in place before the cfservd-communication can start, is that right? If so, I have not been able to see a solution where we out-of-the-box can do this keysetup without sacrifising some security. Or have I missed a solution here? I believe a solution where we can run a script on the main-server (from a webmin-module or something) to "add" the workstation into the cfservd-setup would be a satisfactory solution to the problem. - Werner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advise for new default configuration
Hi Patrice, this sounds promising. Am Donnerstag 15 Dezember 2005 00:43 schrieb Patrice Neff: > - Proceed with my idea (and change the domain name used for > testing to cfservd.intern for example) > - Opt-out solution so that manually removing the cfengine.intern > does not install this configuration on new workstations one of those - please note that: - during installation process, the workstations might lack access to net/tjener - so checking means some risk. - until entered in dhcpd.conf, workstation IPs might change - pre06 adds etherwake - some gui/webmin interface would be nice ;) Thx Regards Ralf
Advise for new default configuration
Hi list, A while ago we had a discussion here about default cfengine configuration. I'm currently trying to implement something so that newly installed workstations automatically get a running cfservd that can be controlled from tjener. It would be possible to just add this by default. But it might be a security risk if it's just activated on every workstation in every debian-edu network. So I thought that I'd only install it if cfengine.intern is defined in the DNS. Then I realized that this domain is already added by default. Now my question to other debian- edu developers: which of the following options do you like best? - Proceed with my idea (and change the domain name used for testing to cfservd.intern for example) - Opt-out solution so that manually removing the cfengine.intern does not install this configuration on new workstations - Just run cfservd on every workstation - Stop with this idea and do nothing at all - Insert your idea here. :-) Thank you for any feedback Patrice Neff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 550] email clients automatically configured for postoffice with imaps
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=550 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 23:37 --- Kmail's config corruption bug is now filed at http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118351 What about putting kmail settings in /usr/share/debian-edu/... and not /etc/skel *only* on new installations and not updating existing installations (or only /etc/skel) until the bug in kmail has been fixed? Where possible please avoid distributing stuff with /etc/skel. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 999] New: XF86config-4 gets changed and debconf md5sum is not updated
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=999 Summary: XF86config-4 gets changed and debconf md5sum is not updated Product: Skolelinux Version: sarge-pr06 Platform: Other OS/Version: other Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Configuration AssignedTo: debian-edu@lists.debian.org ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] After the install XF86config-4 is out of sync with the debconf md5sum. The file isn't updateable by "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" as recomended in the handbook or during upgrades. Needs a md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum after installation/configuration. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 550] email clients automatically configured for postoffice with imaps
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=550 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 21:13 --- Things in /etc/skel is only deployed when a new account is created. things under /usr/share/debian-edu will, as you also found out overwrite their default config For those who have installation from before we added /usr/share/debian-edu, this is really a blocker, cause upgrading to sarge, will break their email config. I will suggest for a skeleton under /etc/skel, and some documentation under /usr/share/doc/debian-edu-config/examples and a README somewhere telling people they could place this under /usr/share/debian-edu, rather than placing things under /usr/share/debian-edu directly, breaking most of the existing installations were they use kmail (I know of 1 installation were they actually use the local imap server, and they are moving away from kmail, in favour of thunderbird) --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 998] New: exim accepted smtp and imap unencrypted and w/o smtp_auth
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=998 Summary: exim accepted smtp and imap unencrypted and w/o smtp_auth Product: Skolelinux Version: sarge-pr06 Platform: Other OS/Version: other Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Configuration AssignedTo: debian-edu@lists.debian.org ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Noticed this when playing with MUA settings. Unencrypted would be harmless if it is only localy, but may not requireing smtp_auth not result in not identifyable forged emails? User identification is also why I chose /usr/bin/sendmail in the central kmail config. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 996] New: Do not distribute umask settings in ~/.bash_profile
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=996 Summary: Do not distribute umask settings in ~/.bash_profile Product: Skolelinux Version: sarge-pr06 Platform: Other OS/Version: other Status: NEW Severity: minor Priority: P2 Component: Configuration AssignedTo: debian-edu@lists.debian.org ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove the umask setting in /etc/skel/.bash_profile Solution relates to #248140 #248150 #314539 There is a choice between setting the umask setting in /etc/profiles AND /etc/login.defs until pam_umask, the future place to centraly set the umask in debian, is in base, or to already remove the umask settings in the shell configuration files and include pam_umask on the CD. Think these kinds of umask redundancy might have been necessary before due to KDE <3.3 not honoring the umask. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 994] Can not boot cd with 2.6 kernel in expert mode
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=994 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 18:55 --- Looks like expert26 looks for 2.4.27, attached a screenshot from qemu. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 995] New: kdepim-kio-plugins needed for kmail imap to work
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=995 Summary: kdepim-kio-plugins needed for kmail imap to work Product: Skolelinux Version: sarge-pr06 Platform: Other OS/Version: other Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: debian-edu-install AssignedTo: debian-edu@lists.debian.org ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Without the suggested package kdepim-kio-plugins kmail can't access the mailboxes. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 550] email clients automatically configured for postoffice with imaps
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=550 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 17:30 --- If /etc/skel/.kde/share/config/kmailrc is removed it doesn't get in the way of the central config. If /usr/share/debian-edu (or a according desktop-profiles dir) could be exported from tjener we would have a central location for networkwide configs. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 550] email clients automatically configured for postoffice with imaps
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=550 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 17:23 --- It seems a limitation in the KDE config cascading and/or Kmail prevents different stanzas like [Identity #n] to get merged well between cascades. The numbering is taken as hardcoded. I.e. wehn [Identity #0] exists in a user's config file and another [Identity #0] is provided in a layer above the one from above overrides/writes the users one. This has an effect only when config files are moved or edited manuall by the user or during updates when new central configs get installed. A workaround is to incrase all numberings of user stanzas in a users config file i.e. [Account n+1] and also accounts=N+1 under [General], before creating a central config file that will provide the first account. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 550] email clients automatically configured for postoffice with imaps
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[EMAIL PROTECTED] Version|woody-prereleases |sarge-pr06 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 17:05 --- There seems to be bug in Kmail. When choosing a default Identity or Transport it saves this object as first entry in the config file, on the next program startup the first entry will of course be overridden by the central config. Workaround: Don't change the default Identity or Transport but specify a specific Transport for your alternate Identities and use the "sticky" Identity checkmark in the composer window Identity selection to stick to your main Identity. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice - woody
Am Mittwoch 14 Dezember 2005 14:36 schrieb Embrik Kaslegard: > Heute 14:36:13 > > > My version of open office seems to be a bit old, > 1.0.2. I want a newer version in order to install > myspell-en-gb Dear Embrik, did you look for Backports? Linex had a newer OOo for woody - and Credativ, too. If you talk about mere Terminal servers (no combo), then I advice to re-install them with a Sarge pre05 (or mabye even 06 if fixes are confirmed). You will find much more and better educational software with KDE 3.3. Regards Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do I add teachers to all existing classes?
Dear list, to put it right: A "class" is an entire year in my system, meaning we have 9 classes (annual groups). Each year has their own share folder to interchange files (without interferring with younger kids). Now, of course, teachers need the right to write to all of these 9 share folders. Initially, I just put every teacher into all annual groups by default. But now, year after year, there are new groups that I want teachers to join in. Rather than clicking one teacher after another in WLUS (we have 100 teachers), I would prefer some automatism. Maybe some script accessing LDAP directly takeing two parameters: # ldap_group_imply $conditionalgroup $destinationgroup All users who are a member of $conditionalgroup (say "teachers") will be joined to $destinationgroup (say "year2005"). Can anybody provide such script? Or is there a better way? Thank you Regards Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to subscribe this list
On 14:32 Wed 14 Dec , Embrik Kaslegard wrote: > How do i subscribe to this list? http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe Friendly, -- Xavier Oswald -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to subscribe this list
How do i subscribe to this list? Embrik Kaslegard Hemsedal barne- og ungdomsskule 31 40 89 57 / 456 31 704 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
openoffice - woody
My version of open office seems to be a bit old, 1.0.2. I want a newer version in order to install myspell-en-gb. OO1.1.3 would have been nice. I can't seem to find any newer packages fitting in woody. Is this true. Do I have to update all my servers to sarge in order to get able to install myspell-en-gb.deb? Embrik Kaslegard Hemsedal barne- og ungdomsskule 31 40 89 57 / 456 31 704 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 994] New: Can not boot cd with 2.6 kernel in expert mode
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=994 Summary: Can not boot cd with 2.6 kernel in expert mode Product: Skolelinux Version: sarge-pr06 Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Installation system AssignedTo: debian-edu@lists.debian.org ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have a test box with sata disks, it runs fine with recent 2.6 kernels. But, though Skolelinux pr06 is said to install 2.6 kernel by default, the install-cd's default expert mode does not seem to boot a 2.6 kernel. It simply won't find the harddisk. There's no strangeness with the interface, it boots fine from pr05 and from /dev/hda at that. Booting with 'expert26' panics at a kernel module it won't find. Option 'linux' (and 'expert') boot fine, but don't want to waste the test box installation today, so it'll have to stop in time for now. Further info later, especially on request. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 993] New: Should not use a specific revision of debian-cd for building
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=993 Summary: Should not use a specific revision of debian-cd for building Product: Skolelinux Version: unspecified Platform: Other OS/Version: other Status: NEW Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Installation system AssignedTo: debian-edu@lists.debian.org ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From time to time there are some major changes in debian-cd, that breaks our cd-building script. While this is anoying, we should stay with mainstream debian-cd, both to get the latest features, and to help with the development of debian-cd. But right now our main focus should be to get a working Sarge-based Debian-Edu cd. That's why we use revision 983 for the CD. The specific version is set in the script patch-debian-cd under build/CD (from alioth) for more details, see the commit https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/commits/2005-December/041623.html --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I am lost with lvm in debian-edu
If you can read french have a look a this: http://schlossgul.org/wakka.php?wiki=RedimensionnerPartitions Regards Thierry Selon Nicolas Pettiaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I am lost with lvm in debian-edu: > > I have started to read the (long) documentation about lvm to > understand it a little. > > How can I know (= where do I have to look) to know which physical > partition are used in which logical volume; > > where the logical volumes are defined, > > how to add simply some free space to the logican volumes ? > > Thanks, > > Nicolas > -- > Nicolas Pettiaux - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 550] email clients automatically configured for postoffice with imaps
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=550 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 09:34 --- Was only talking about the client setup. Why skel distribution, when we have a cascading config system? The immutable flag was suggested only together with shell extension [$ie]. This lets the users environment variables always take effect. (Never saving expanded values in user configs that could go stale) With this a local email account can be in place up upon installation. I will submit such updated config files for sarge when tested. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 939] Unable to unlink device node for vg_groups.
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=939 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 09:23 --- no, that one was about /, the bug is regarding /dev --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Bug 939] Unable to unlink device node for vg_groups.
http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=939 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2005-12-14 08:57 --- Already fixed here?: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=252059 --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug, or are watching the assignee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
