Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 03:09 Tue 31 Oct , Christian Kuelker wrote:
 Hi
 
 Holger Levsen schrieb:
  I cannot find a binary package cipux-cat-web in the debian/control located 
  there... please add :) 
 
 fixed
 
  And while your at it, upgrade to policy 3.7.2, please.
 
 Yes no problem, or will all fall into pieces if I do that?
 Where this number should be added? Or @Xavier may you do it.
done.

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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 13:29 Mon 30 Oct , Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Monday 30 October 2006 12:08, Christian Kuelker wrote:
  http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cipux/trunk/cat-web/src/?rev=0sc=0
 
 I tried to build it in an etch chroot and it worked, yay!
 
 I could also install all packages, except cipux-webmin (expected, as webmin 
 is 
 not included in etch) and cipux-rpc. cipux-rpc is uninstallable because of 
 missing packages libauthen-simple-perl and libauthen-simple-pam-perl.
 
 Please includes these packages in your efforts, atm the source for 
 thosepackages (for me) is http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/ but I 
 doubt thats the location you use :-) Where do you get the packages from?
 
 BTW, looking at libauthen-simple-pam-perl-0.02/debian/copyright this is not 
 enough, please read  
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/03/msg00023.html and fix 
 accordingly. (I guess this is the case for -simple-perl as well, but I have 
 not checked.)

Are these packages working ?
- http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-pam-perl/
- http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-perl/

I think, they just need some policy modifications or ?

If it is so, I will made the two ITPs and become the maintainer because
christian is already very busy with cipux.

Christian OK ? If yes, I can put you as co-maintainer.

Otherwise, can I use the cipux repository to maintain it ? Or should I use the
perl group repository on alioth and then ask an account ?

Thanks!

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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Tuesday 31 October 2006 11:46, Xavier Oswald wrote:
 Are these packages working ?
 - http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-pam-perl/
 - http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-perl/

In case you ask me, I dont know. I just collected them there to get an 
overview.


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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi,

Xavier Oswald schrieb:
 On 13:29 Mon 30 Oct , Holger Levsen wrote:
 
 Are these packages working ?
 - http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-pam-perl/
 - http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-perl/

Xavier, we talked at DevCamp about the packages. You build them already there.
I used cdbs to build them on my repository.
They are normally on CPAN. There is also a automatic debian package build 
facility
there.

 I think, they just need some policy modifications or ?
 
 If it is so, I will made the two ITPs and become the maintainer because
 christian is already very busy with cipux.

THx!

 Christian OK ? If yes, I can put you as co-maintainer.

ok.

 Otherwise, can I use the cipux repository to maintain it ? Or should I use the
 perl group repository on alioth and then ask an account ?

I think perl group repository is better, because they have nothing in common 
with
CipUX accept that they are used. Normal CPAN packages should ALL be in Debian 
not
in CipUX.

Greetings
Christian



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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 12:07 Tue 31 Oct , Christian Kuelker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Xavier Oswald schrieb:
  On 13:29 Mon 30 Oct , Holger Levsen wrote:
  
  Are these packages working ?
  - http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-pam-perl/
  - http://developer.skolelinux.no/~holger/libauthen-simple-perl/
 
 Xavier, we talked at DevCamp about the packages. You build them already there.
 I used cdbs to build them on my repository.
 They are normally on CPAN. There is also a automatic debian package build 
 facility
 there.
Ok , I did forget that ;) 

  Otherwise, can I use the cipux repository to maintain it ? Or should I use 
  the
  perl group repository on alioth and then ask an account ?
 
 I think perl group repository is better, because they have nothing in common 
 with
 CipUX accept that they are used. Normal CPAN packages should ALL be in Debian 
 not
 in CipUX.
Then, I will ask for write access to the perl group project on alioth and find
uploaders for this two libs.

It should be ok tomorow !

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Re: CipUX cat-web (first code)

2006-10-31 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi X.,

Xavier Oswald schrieb:
 Then, I will ask for write access to the perl group project on alioth and find
 uploaders for this two libs.
 
 It should be ok tomorow !

wau, this is fine!

Thank you
Christian


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Bug#396383: debian-edu-config: [INTL:de] Initial German debconf translation

2006-10-31 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
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Re: Another idea-Re: Edgy+1 : Planning for the next Edubuntu version

2006-10-31 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux

2006/10/21, Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

hi,
Am Samstag, den 21.10.2006, 02:31 -0400 schrieb David Trask:
 As schools begin to adopt things like Edubuntu, K12LTSP...etc on a large
 scalebeing able to set up multiple servers and centralized
 authentication is a big point.  I already do this using Samba/LDAP.  I
 have multiple K12LTSP servers and a Samba/LDAP server for all users and
 their home directories.  This makes adding servers to the mixa
 cinch...as I don't have to worry about users and their dataI simply
 point the new server to the Samba/LDAP box.  Matt Oquist and I (more Matt
 than me) have come up with smbldap-installer which makes setting up a
 Samba/LDAP server very easy (http://www.majen.net/smbldap) and thus gives
 the average school IT person(s) another option for centralized
 authentication of student accounts.  The scripts do a lot with user
 creation and passwords as well.  You can also easily set up BDC's as well.
  We have it working very well in Ubuntu as well as K12LTSP and Fedora
 Core.  In fact, I find Ubuntu server to be one of the better ways to set
 up a Samba/LDAP server.  Anway...my point...

so lets see how we can integrate it in the default server install ;)


Much work has already been done by the skolelinux/debian-edu team with
respect to LDAP usage in classroom servers, and it could be
interesting to consider collaboration on this point.

A new software to manage the administration of the users and the
servers is being developped that could well be integrated in Edubuntu.
It is CIPUX.

see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX

The active developpers of CIPUX are in cc., as well as the debian-edu
mailing list where much of the discussion is taking place.

Further than this, I think that active collaboration between Edubuntu
and Debian-edu could only be useful to all.

Thanks,

Nicolas

(rest of message left for the case of information)


 This may be beyond the scope of Ubuntu/Edubuntu, but one thing school
 folks need is the ability to easily set up centralized authentication for
 their Edubuntu networkespecially for growing or large networks with
 multiple servers.  Maybe this is something that could be offered.  It
 could also use a pretty faceright now everything is done in the
 CLI...although it's still quite easy...but to make it more attractive to
 the masses...putting a pretty clicky interface with it...will speed
 adoption.  Just a thought.  :-)
its totally not beyond the scope of edubuntu, our roadmap was always to
start at a) a single classroom level and build the best for that we can,
then grow in size of features to support b) a whole school setup and in
the end be suitable even for c) municipalicies.
i think with edgy even its not perfect yet we accomplish a)
for b) we surely need a centralized user management that works out of
the box and integration on a workstation level as well as integration on
the ltsp level. so lets build the base for that in mountainview  to have
feisty fawn entering the school and not only the classroom :)

ciao
oli


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Re: Another idea-Re: Edgy+1 : Planning for the next Edubuntu version

2006-10-31 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 31.10.2006, 16:17 +0100 schrieb Nicolas Pettiaux:
 2006/10/21, Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  hi,
  Am Samstag, den 21.10.2006, 02:31 -0400 schrieb David Trask:
   As schools begin to adopt things like Edubuntu, K12LTSP...etc on a large
   scalebeing able to set up multiple servers and centralized
   authentication is a big point.  I already do this using Samba/LDAP.  I
   have multiple K12LTSP servers and a Samba/LDAP server for all users and
   their home directories.  This makes adding servers to the mixa
   cinch...as I don't have to worry about users and their dataI simply
   point the new server to the Samba/LDAP box.  Matt Oquist and I (more Matt
   than me) have come up with smbldap-installer which makes setting up a
   Samba/LDAP server very easy (http://www.majen.net/smbldap) and thus gives
   the average school IT person(s) another option for centralized
   authentication of student accounts.  The scripts do a lot with user
   creation and passwords as well.  You can also easily set up BDC's as well.
We have it working very well in Ubuntu as well as K12LTSP and Fedora
   Core.  In fact, I find Ubuntu server to be one of the better ways to set
   up a Samba/LDAP server.  Anway...my point...
  
  so lets see how we can integrate it in the default server install ;)
 
 Much work has already been done by the skolelinux/debian-edu team with
 respect to LDAP usage in classroom servers, and it could be
 interesting to consider collaboration on this point.
 
 A new software to manage the administration of the users and the
 servers is being developped that could well be integrated in Edubuntu.
 It is CIPUX.
 
 see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX
 
 The active developpers of CIPUX are in cc., as well as the debian-edu
 mailing list where much of the discussion is taking place.
does it have an gtk or kde gui we could integrate into the servers
desktop ? you might have noticed that edubuntu doesnt come with any web
based configuration tools yet and we try to have the stuff we develop
integrated into the desktop (i.e. see the student-control-panel or the
willowng contentfilter)

having a web interface as optional add-on is nice but i'd really prefer
something like
https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-network-auth-server

we'll take webmin and cipux into consideration during the discussion at
mountainview though...

ciao
oli


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Re: Another idea-Re: Edgy+1 : Planning for the next Edubuntu version

2006-10-31 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi,

Oliver Grawert schrieb:
 hi,
 Am Dienstag, den 31.10.2006, 16:17 +0100 schrieb Nicolas Pettiaux:
 2006/10/21, Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 A new software to manage the administration of the users and the
 servers is being developped that could well be integrated in Edubuntu.
 It is CIPUX.

 see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX

 The active developpers of CIPUX are in cc., as well as the debian-edu
 mailing list where much of the discussion is taking place.

 does it have an gtk or kde gui we could integrate into the servers
 desktop ? you might have noticed that edubuntu doesnt come with any web
 based configuration tools yet and we try to have the stuff we develop
 integrated into the desktop (i.e. see the student-control-panel or the
 willowng contentfilter)

It has no gtk or qt administration application at the moment. There are at
least 2 plans for writing one. One for user-self-administration and the other
for admin or teacher tasks.

It is not difficult to develop such desktop application, because the CipUX
framework can be accessed in two ways: 1) over the CipUX::Task API, means
over the command line. But 2) is better I think: over CiPUX XML-RPC, that
give the freedom to choose whatever implantation language you would like
to have.

 having a web interface as optional add-on is nice but i'd really prefer
 something like
 https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/edubuntu-network-auth-server

I did not look to much into details, but for me it looks like a client an
the cipux-rpc server ...

 we'll take webmin and cipux into consideration during the discussion at
 mountainview though...

No, CipUX is not depending on webmin. You have the choice to use webmin, but
you don't have to. For now you have the 4 administration tools:

* cipux-cat-webmin (ok that uses webmin, but don't install it if you don't want)
* cipuxPHP (Moodle plugin, you know what Moodle is right?)
* CipUX::Task (command line interface with over 120 commands!)
* cipux-cat-web (new web tool for a web server, NOT webmin)

And I know at least from an other project  :) which I am looking at with 
tense!

So why not take CipUX and develop a gtk or qt application for it? Then you have 
only
20% of the work. And ! the teachers will love you, because they have not to 
learn
a new GUI when they switch the school. (Assuming it is installable under Debian 
or
Debian-Edu.)

Greetings
Christian































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