Re: Changes to the DVD when debian-cd pull in all recommended packages...

2010-10-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Dienstag, 26. Oktober 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 Any other ideas?

am I correct that this is because the DVD only installs packages from the DVD 
while the CD also installs stuff from the net? Then my idea would be to also 
use the network when installing from DVD.


cheers,
Holger


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Re: Changes to the DVD when debian-cd pull in all recommended packages...

2010-10-27 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Holger Levsen]
 am I correct that this is because the DVD only installs packages
 from the DVD while the CD also installs stuff from the net?

Yes, but you miss the reason why it is this way.  The DVD is intended
to be self contained, to allow for example a school in the savannah in
Africa to get a fully working Skolelinux installation even thought
there is no Internet connection available.

 Then my idea would be to also use the network when installing from
 DVD.

We could try to enable network during installation, but it would not
solve the goal of making the DVD self contained.

Happy hacking,
-- 
Petter Reinholdtsen


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Re: Changes to the DVD when debian-cd pull in all recommended packages...

2010-10-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Mittwoch, 27. Oktober 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  am I correct that this is because the DVD only installs packages
  from the DVD while the CD also installs stuff from the net?
 Yes, but you miss the reason why it is this way.  The DVD is intended
 to be self contained, to allow for example a school in the savannah in
 Africa to get a fully working Skolelinux installation even thought
 there is no Internet connection available.

I didnt miss that.

 We could try to enable network during installation, but it would not
 solve the goal of making the DVD self contained.

True. But it would solve another goal (which I consider implicit): identical 
installation undependend of the media used.

And the DVD could still be self contained without network, but then - for 
today - the installation would be different. So DVD+net ~= CD+net install, 
while DVD install != CD+net install. IMO thats better, as the majority of DVD 
installs has network access. 

Also I dont think it's possible today anymore, to put 2 archs and 3 desktop 
environments (of that size) on a single layer DVD.


cheers,
Holger, wo saw a full linux desktop in 64mb yesterday :)


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Re: More on the future LDAP admin gui in Debian Edu

2010-10-27 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 12:52 Mon 25 Oct , Jürgen Leibner wrote:
 
 The french team has done their own add-on-cd in 2006. Their packages are 
 until now in the skolelinux svn. Have you tried to come in to the svn 
 with your packages?
 
 CipUX was added to the package lists for being on the CD/DVD by Xavier 
 Oswald in 2006 as the debian-edu changelog tells:
 ---8
   [ Xavier Oswald ]
   * main-server task:
 - Depend on moodle-debian-edu-theme, moodle-cipux, cipux-all
 - Recommend moodle-courses-fr, debian-edu-fr-all, 
 debian-edu-fr-skels.
   These packages contain French data so they are reduce to 
 recommend.
 - Depend on cipux-common, cipux-cibot, cipux-cat-webmin, cipux-rpc,
   cipux-profile. These packages come from the cipux repository.
 ---8
 
 Why not try to come in again?
 As you can see how GOsa² came in, why didn't you try to do it the same 
 way?

Since Im quoted I think I should reply.

I was planning to come in again after a future IRL meeting which is planned to
be soon with Christian. We want to work ASAP on preseeding cipux and do
integration tests with debian-edu.

I will come back to the list when I have something working, asking for tests and
comments.

Greetings,
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