Re: SRV records can't point to CNAMEs

2011-02-17 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas B. Mundt]
> That's why I changed them pointing to tjener.intern, the machine
> where the service is actually running after the default
> installation.

Right.  I misread the diff when I quickly had a look.  Pointing to
tjener should not be in conflict with the DNS spec.

> To move services to other machines, these pointers have to be
> changed accordingly. (With multiple A-records in place, you have to
> modify the A-records and PTR-records to correspond to the new
> machine. In that case you can leave the SRV-records untouched. Now
> you have to add the PTR- and A-record to the new machine, remove the
> CNAME and modify the SRV-record to point to that new machine.)

I believe the sssd setup will actually copy the SRV pointed setting to
/etc/sssd/sssd.conf, and thus not work in this case.  For that to
work, the SRV records need to point to the service DNS name (like
ldap.intern), and we are back where we started.

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Re: SRV records can't point to CNAMEs (Was: r73002 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/bind ldap-bootstrap)

2011-02-17 Thread Andreas B. Mundt
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 06:03:02PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> 
> [Andreas B. Mundt]
> > Remove duplicate A-records from DNS configuration to make sure the
> > reverse address mapping needed for reliably issuing a Kerberos service
> > ticket works.  To move services to another machine, add the machine to
> > DNS, remove the CNAME-record(s) and modify the service record(s) to
> > point to that new machine. 
> > (Cf. http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2011/01/msg00041.html> and 
> > tread).
> 
> DNS do not allow SRV records to point to CNAME entries.  To avoid
> breaking the DNS specification, a different solution is needed.
> 

That's why I changed them pointing to tjener.intern, the machine where
the service is actually running after the default installation.

To move services to other machines, these pointers have to be changed
accordingly. (With multiple A-records in place, you have to modify the
A-records and PTR-records to correspond to the new machine. In that
case you can leave the SRV-records untouched. Now you have to add the
PTR- and A-record to the new machine, remove the CNAME and modify the
SRV-record to point to that new machine.)

Is there a problem with that I've missed? 
 
Regards,

Andi


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Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Ole-Anders Andreassen
Ok, I have tried to talk to the folks at Atea, but they tells me that 
this is a Linux problem.
( Atea is the leading Nordic and Baltic supplier of IT infrastructure 
with approximately 5,400 employees)


When we moved in to the new school one year ago we had the same 
problems, the solution was to route our school on the outside of the 
"gateway-security-filter".
But after an "upgrade" we are forced back, and have to use the same 
gateway as all the other schools in the region.


Diskless Clients can surf on the Internet, but it is slow.
The server can surf on the Internet.
Laptops using Ubuntu linux on 10.0.2-network can't surf on the internet.
Ubuntu PC's can ping adresses on the outside of the filtering-gateway, 
and skolelinux.org resolves to 158.36.191.137

It is almost not possible to update Ubuntu PCs
It is not possible to update SLX servers, apt hangs on "waiting for 
headers"


At school we have 3 different networks. One for the pupils, one for 
administration and theachers, and one for art/music-school.
On the two first networks I run slx-servers. The third network is 
administrated by the admin-staff at the town hall. When i try an Ubuntu 
PC at this network the same thing happens. I can ping and trace 
skolelinux.org, and it resolves to 158.36.191.137. But I can't surf the 
web, and I can't install or update software because of timeout.


All PC's and clients can with no problems view webpages that are on 
servers on the inside of the filtering-gateway. E.g Sunndal.kommune.no - 
www.tingvoll.kommune.no, www.kristiansund.kommune.no and so on...


I've tried to use rsync to get the latest DVD, but it is not possible. 
SSH is also blocked, so I can't use SSH to user.skolinux.no, and I can't 
update the schools webpage using scp


This is so fun...

OleA



Den 17.02.11 14.30, skrev Klaus Ade Johnstad:

  Torsdag 17. februar 2011 13.01.17 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen :
   

Things worked fine until a few days ago, then they changed someting
on the outside of our  network, and I have been told that everything
should be transparent.

OleA
 

Right, honestly, I think you should have a talk with those that changed
something on the outside of your network, as the cahnage and your
problem seems to coincide.
   




SRV records can't point to CNAMEs (Was: r73002 - in trunk/src/debian-edu-config: debian etc/bind ldap-bootstrap)

2011-02-17 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas B. Mundt]
> Remove duplicate A-records from DNS configuration to make sure the
> reverse address mapping needed for reliably issuing a Kerberos service
> ticket works.  To move services to another machine, add the machine to
> DNS, remove the CNAME-record(s) and modify the service record(s) to
> point to that new machine. 
> (Cf. http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2011/01/msg00041.html> and 
> tread).

DNS do not allow SRV records to point to CNAME entries.  To avoid
breaking the DNS specification, a different solution is needed.

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Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Klaus Ade Johnstad
 Torsdag 17. februar 2011 13.01.17 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen :
> Things worked fine until a few days ago, then they changed someting
> on the outside of our  network, and I have been told that everything
> should be transparent.
> 
> OleA

Right, honestly, I think you should have a talk with those that changed 
something on the outside of your network, as the cahnage and your 
problem seems to coincide.
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Re: DVD works again: please test, report and contribute to debian-edu-squeeze

2011-02-17 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Andi,

On Mi 16 Feb 2011 23:10:48 CET "Andreas B. Mundt" wrote:


Hi all,

I am happy to report that the latest test-DVD of our forthcoming
debian-edu-squeeze release is ready for testing. It includes Kerberos
user (and mail) authorization, GOsa as LDAP admin tool and bind as
DNS. The home directory is distributed via NFSv4.

You can rsync your DVD with:

rsync -avzP  
ftp.skolelinux.org::cd-squeeze-test-dvd/debian-edu-amd64-i386-DVD-1.iso  
debian-edu-DVD-1-squeeze.iso


It's the first time that all these components work together in our
setup, so don't expect a perfect system yet. However, please test and
report issues, in order to make polishing the setup easier.

To work around the (yet) missing netgroup support, modify /etc/exports
to allow all hosts (replace @ by a *) if you need home
directories mounted.

If all goes well, we hopefully can prepare a release candidate soon,
perhaps with netgroup support and Kerberos NFSv4.

Happy testing,

  Andi


This is great news I will test ASAP (which might take a bit  
because of a cold that came over me).


Greets,
Mike

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Re: DVD works again: please test, report and contribute to debian-edu-squeeze

2011-02-17 Thread Ole-Anders Andreassen

rsync is not possible trough the regional gateway-filter-firewall-thing.
How can I run rsync troung a tunnel?





You can rsync your DVD with:  


rsync -avzP 
ftp.skolelinux.org::cd-squeeze-test-dvd/debian-edu-amd64-i386-DVD-1.iso 
debian-edu-DVD-1-squeeze.iso





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Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Ole-Anders Andreassen

Klaus Ade Johnstad skrev:

Torsdag 17. februar 2011 12.17.42 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen:

IPCop, and it is my FW :)

All the machines are on the same network. 10.0.2.xx and 10.0.3xx

OleA


This is a PITA trying to resolve without direct access to such a 
network.


But, did "something" happen before this stopped working? Was something 
changed? I guess it at one pint it did work?



Things worked fine until a few days ago, then they changed someting on the outside of our 
network, and I have been told that everything should be transparent.


OleA




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Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Klaus Ade Johnstad
Torsdag 17. februar 2011 12.17.42 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen:
> IPCop, and it is my FW :)
> 
> All the machines are on the same network. 10.0.2.xx and 10.0.3xx
> 
> OleA

This is a PITA trying to resolve without direct access to such a 
network.

But, did "something" happen before this stopped working? Was something 
changed? I guess it at one pint it did work?
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Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Ole-Anders Andreassen

Klaus Ade Johnstad skrev:

 Torsdag 17. februar 2011 11.39.23 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen :

For some strange reason guest-PC running Linux are no longer able to
access the Internet.  PCs with Windows seems to run ok, and Mac's as
well.


All these machines are on the same network I guess?

And what kind of firewall is this? Is it under your controll?


IPCop, and it is my FW :)

All the machines are on the same network. 10.0.2.xx and 10.0.3xx

OleA


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Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Klaus Ade Johnstad
 Torsdag 17. februar 2011 11.39.23 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen :
> For some strange reason guest-PC running Linux are no longer able to
> access the Internet.  PCs with Windows seems to run ok, and Mac's as
> well.

All these machines are on the same network I guess?

And what kind of firewall is this? Is it under your controll?
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Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Ole-Anders Andreassen
For some strange reason guest-PC running Linux are no longer able to access the Internet. 
PCs with Windows seems to run ok, and Mac's as well.


Another strange thing is that from a diskless klient or the server, I can't access the 
firewall web interface. Squid is stopping me.  But from a "guest PC" I can access the 
firewall web interface.


In short:
Diskless (and server) can access internet, but not firewall webgui
Laptops with ubuntu can't access internet, but can access firewall webgui


OleA





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Re: Where do I see the DNS settings used i Lenny

2011-02-17 Thread Klaus Ade Johnstad
 Torsdag 17. februar 2011 00.08.16 skrev Ole-Anders Andreassen :
> Where can I easiest find the DNS settings used in Lenny?
> Are there any short-cuts to show info about the network-setup, 
> IP-ranges, netmask, routing, DNS and so on?
> 
> OleA

Difficult to answer when not knowing what your are specifically really 
after, but:

It's mostly in the files:
/etc/network/interfaces 
/etc/hosts 
/etc/resolv.conf

And commands likes:
route -vn
ifconfig
nslookup
host 
dig



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