Re: diskless workstations / setup

2011-03-30 Thread Nigel Barker
On 31 March 2011 03:32, RalfGesellensetter  wrote:
> Hi Nigel,
>
> nice to hear from you in Japan, so I guess you are alright...

everything normal here. We don't even have power cuts - no national
grid in Japan, can you believe?

>
> Well, what kind of workstation do you use, or what services apart from
> auth-thru-LDAP and web-proxy? Especially, I wonder if NFS mounts and
> samba shares are available on this net?
>

Ordinary workstation install of skolelinux. NFS works of course - you
can log in and work as normal. No network printers show up, but I
don't mind as I try to limit the amount of printing anyway. No idea
about samba, because I don't have any servers other than tjener.


cheers

nigel


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Edubuntu Monthly Meeting Minutes for Wednesday, 30 March 2011

2011-03-30 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi Edubuntu developers
(and debian-edu developers)

We had Rubén Romero y Cordero and Arnt Ove Gregersen from Debian-Edu
(also known as Skolelinux) joining us so that we can discuss
collaboration between the two projects.

Two areas we identified as possible starting points are:

1. Packaging work: for a start, get education related packages that are
just in Ubuntu in Debian as well. These are packages like nanny,
edubuntu-menueditor, librecad, etc. Some packages may already have ITP's
in Debian so we'll have to work on the best ways to approach this kind
of work.

2. Integration between Edubuntu clients and Debian-Edu servers. Some
Debian-Edu environments are already mixed environments with Debian and
Ubuntu machines. Debian-Edu provides an central authentication out of
the box. It would be great if we could include an easy method of
integrating into a Debian-Edu environment with Edubuntu.

We also discussed communication and we will probably have a session at
UDS where we will specifically invite Debian-Edu people to participate
in. Rubén is going to follow up with the Ubuntu community manager to see
if it's still possible to apply for sponsorship. Edubuntu people are
pretty much available on #edubuntu on freenode, and debian-edu people
are on #debian-edu on #oftc. Some of us will be on both :)

If there's any questions or comment feel free to shout, this is going to
be an ongoing process and will take effort from both sides.

Thanks for reading!

Here's a full dump of our meeting:

15:00  * stgraber waves
15:00 < stgraber> highvoltage: ping
15:00 < highvoltage> stgraber: pong
15:01 < highvoltage> stgraber: are you and M going to make it back in time?
15:01 < alkisg> o/
15:01 < stgraber> mgariepy and I will have to skip this meeting, sorry
15:01 < highvoltage> stgraber: ok
15:01 < stgraber> just left the US
15:01 < highvoltage> ouch, ok
15:02 < highvoltage> who else is here for the Edubuntu meeting?
15:03 < highvoltage> here's the Agenda:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda
15:03 < highvoltage> and the roadmap wiki page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Devel/RoadMap
15:04 < highvoltage> Beta 1 release is happening tomorrow, we're mostly
looking good for that, I've been testing upgrades today
15:04 < highvoltage> as well as i386/amd64 DVD installs
15:04 < highvoltage> still have to test LTSP but at least it installed fine
15:05 < highvoltage> I missed some icons in the installer slideshow, but
it's not critical, I hope to get a freeze exception for those
15:05 < highvoltage> we still also have italc crashing on amd64, which
is weird since we thought we removed it from the live session
15:06 < highvoltage> Rubén Romero y Cordero has been working on
improving the relationship between Debian-Edu/Skolelinux and Edubuntu
15:07 < highvoltage> he arranged for the Debian guys to join us for this
meeting so that we can discuss collaboration, unfortunately I don't know
their nicks, are you guys here?
15:07  * huayra would be Rubén
15:08 < arnt> I am the board leader in FRISK the member organization for
DebianEdu
15:08 < highvoltage> ah right! hi huayra and arnt :)
15:09 < arnt> FRISK  is short for "Free software in the schools" , an
organization that promots the use of the FLOSS software in the Norwegian
schools
15:09 < huayra> hi highvoltage and the rest of the edubuntu team
15:09 < arnt> hi highvoltage
15:09 < highvoltage> would you mind giving some introductions?
unfortunately everyone isn't here, but it would be nice for the logs
(I'll post it to the lists) and I'll take the liberty of introducing
marc/staphane who can't be here right now
15:10 < arnt> hi the rest :)
15:10 < alkisg> Hi arnt and huayra :)
15:11 < highvoltage> I'm Jonathan Carter, I work for Révolution Linux
that implements a full range of Linux solutions, we have many schools
and educational institutions as clients and it's an important part of
what we do
15:11  * alkisg is a Greek teacher, promoting (ed)ubuntu/ltsp in greek
schools (about 200 so far)
15:11 < highvoltage> mgariepy and stgraber also works with me, they're
on their way back from the US (we're based in Canada) so they couldn't
make it for this meeting
15:12 < arnt> My name is Arnt Ove Gregersen, I work as a system
developer at day time creating map related software , in my spare time I
am the board leader for FRISK the DebianEdu member organization that
works to promote FLOSS software in Norway
15:12 < highvoltage> the active members on
https://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-members/+members is pretty much who's
been recently active in Edubuntu. as you see it's a small team
15:13 < highvoltage> mhall119, who's usually around also works on
Qimo4kids, a distribution for young kids: http://www.qimo4kids.com/
15:14  * huayra is an Ubuntu Member and FRISK board member. Contact
member for the Norwegian LoCo team. work with sales of Free Software.
driver of SpreadUbuntu. Have a love for Skolelinux and Edubuntu, so it
makes sense for me to do what I do (whatever it is I am doing)
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Re: developer meeting in May in Hamburg?

2011-03-30 Thread Andreas B. Mundt
Hi,

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 01:01:52PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> I'm wondering who/how many would be joining a developer meeting May in 
> Hamburg?

I am rather busy right now (and probably in May again), but I would
try to join you in any case.

> The goal I would like to work on is the release of Debian Edu squeeze. 
> Probably also _only_ work on that? ;)

Yes, we should get that out the sooner the better ...

> I'm thinking about 6-8th or 13-15th of May, but thats just an idea to get 
> some 
> more comments.

For me, one weekend earlier (April 29th-May 1st) would be better, because
of vacancies (beginning April 22nd, ending May 1st.). 
 
> So, comments? Would you be interested to join and make the Debian Edu squeeze 
> release happen?!

Yes, definitely!

Cheers,

Andi


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Re: diskless workstations / setup

2011-03-30 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Hi Nigel,

nice to hear from you in Japan, so I guess you are alright...

Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2011 schrieben Sie:
> If you connect a normal full workstation to eth1 of an ltspserver, it
> will get a 192 ip address, and you can still log in as ldap user,
> without it being a member of the workstations netgroup. I think this
> is pretty cool because it saves static ip addresses in the 10 range,
> and saves me putting mac addresses into tjener.
> I expect its not supposed to work like that, right?

Well, what kind of workstation do you use, or what services apart from
auth-thru-LDAP and web-proxy? Especially, I wonder if NFS mounts and
samba shares are available on this net?

This could save me some work, turning the 192.x net on the backbone,
as we have just one single fibre line between seperate buildings and
no vlan yet...

Kind regards
Ralf.


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Re: diskless workstations / setup

2011-03-30 Thread Nigel Barker
On 30 March 2011 14:16, RalfGesellensetter  wrote:
> Dear Oded,
>
> thanks for your mediating approach ;)
>
> Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2011 schrieb Oded Naveh:
>> I don't understand why would there be an dhcpd on an LTSP?
>
> There used to be dhcpd on eth1 (192.168.0.254) to serve thin
> clients on a separate network.

If you connect a normal full workstation to eth1 of an ltspserver, it
will get a 192 ip address, and you can still log in as ldap user,
without it being a member of the workstations netgroup. I think this
is pretty cool because it saves static ip addresses in the 10 range,
and saves me putting mac addresses into tjener.
I expect its not supposed to work like that, right?

cheers
nigel


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RE: diskless workstations / setup

2011-03-30 Thread Oded Naveh

[RalfGesellensetter - Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:16 AM]

> Dear Oded,
> 
> thanks for your mediating approach ;)
> 
> Am Mittwoch, 30. März 2011 schrieb Oded Naveh:
>> I don't understand why would there be an dhcpd on an LTSP?
> 
> There used to be dhcpd on eth1 (192.168.0.254) to serve thin
> clients on a separate network.

Thanks Ralf, I didn't know that, probably because I never used a separate
LTSP server. I assumed an LTSP server will propagate request to tjener, bah.

That seems to be at the root of the misunderstanding on my part because
I never had problem running/configuring disklesses on the 192.168.0.0/24
as I was only using one dhcpd.conf.

>> I believe there should only be one - system wide.

Still do.

>> For all I know tjener (what ever that means, I take it for main) has
>> been 
> 
> Tjener is the Norwegian transliteration for "Server" or even
> "Servant", AFAIK. 

Thanks again.

Odd.


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