Content and translation status for the debian-edu-squeeze manual

2012-02-04 Thread Holger Levsen
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debian-edu-squeeze-manual.de.po: 447 translated messages, 510 fuzzy 
translations, 268 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-squeeze-manual.es.po: 307 translated messages, 417 fuzzy 
translations, 501 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-squeeze-manual.fr.po: 472 translated messages, 502 fuzzy 
translations, 251 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-squeeze-manual.it.po: 1105 translated messages, 113 fuzzy 
translations, 7 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-squeeze-manual.nb.po: 404 translated messages, 532 fuzzy 
translations, 289 untranslated messages.
debian-edu-squeeze-manual.zh.po: 20 translated messages, 174 fuzzy 
translations, 1031 untranslated messages.
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FIXME: image for the Filter Box 
FIXME: image for Editing a User 
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FIXME: this yet to be written chapter needs to include the info about the 
cronjob updating dns running every hour and "su -c ldap2bind - bind" to trigger 
this manually 
FIXME This section needs to mention the sitesummary2ldapdhcp script, which 
automatically adds machines to GOsa² if the machines have booted as thin 
clients/diskless workstations or been installed using any of the networked 
profiles. 
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FIXME: Compare with DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/HowTo/NetworkClients
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$desktop_environment on "normal logins" and lxde on thin-client-logins. 
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Windows to provide the necessary steps ... 
FIXME: ... from here it needs someone with an English-language install of MS 
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Re: Third Debian Edu Squeeze based Beta Release, 6.0.4 edu beta3

2012-02-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Knut Yrvin]
> Good progress!

Yes.  A big thank you to everyone involved! :)

> Is there any start of a draft press statement, or should I start
> one?

No one started on a press statement.  But I did bounce the beta3
announcement to digi.no, hardware.no and computerworld.no.

The next release (beta4?) will have more polishing and updated
documentation that I expect will materialise during next weekends
developer gathering.  I expect this release to happen in 2-3 weeks.
Perhaps a press release should be prepared for this release?
Depending on how well beta3 hold up, we might even drop beta4 and call
it our first stable release. :)

At least I suspect we are not going to need much more changes before
the stable release.
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Re: Third Debian Edu Squeeze based Beta Release, 6.0.4 edu beta3

2012-02-04 Thread Knut Yrvin
Lørdag 4. februar 2012 13.05.00 skrev Petter Reinholdtsen:
> We are happy to announce "Debian Edu Squeeze 6.0.4 beta3"!

Good progress! 

Is there any start of a draft press statement, or should I start one? 

Best regards

Knut Yrvin
PS The press statement will be sent *after* the release anoucement are 
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Automount NFS vs NFS4

2012-02-04 Thread Giorgio Pioda
Hi,

sorry for being that boring...

Looking into /etc/auto.net I see that theoretically the NFS is NFS3. Changing
the commented line and allowing NFS4 works on Ubuntu workstation, and I'll
check it soon on Edu Workstation. Wouldn't be better to switch
just to have more consistency?

Cheers

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Third Debian Edu Squeeze based Beta Release, 6.0.4 edu beta3

2012-02-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
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We are happy to announce "Debian Edu Squeeze 6.0.4 beta3"!

Debian Edu aka Skolelinux is a Linux distribution based on Debian
providing an out-of-the box environment of a completely configured
school network. It contains setup for a school server, PXE booting for
diskless machines, setup for installing stationary workstations and
setup for workstations that can be taken away from the school network.

Those who already tested beta2 will need to install their machines
again to get all the fixes and improvement now provided with beta3.

Complete download and installation instructions are available at
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/Installation

Read the "Getting Started" chapter of the manual to learn how to login
for the first time.
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/GettingStarted

Please file bugs on any issues you find, and (probably somewhat
additionally) also mention those bugs and issues on our status page at
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Squeeze

Testing and giving feedback to debian-edu@lists.debian.org or
#debian-edu on irc.debian.org is a very good way to start
contributing! Act now :-D

If you can do more, give the manual linked to above some love. It
needs it.

Changes compared to beta2 version

  * The default gateway is now 10.0.0.1/8, not 10.0.2.1/8.
  * A tool subnet-change is provided to change the default backbone
network after installation.
  * The dynamic DHCP range was extended on the backbone network to
around 4k IP address, and around 200 IP addresses for the thin
client network.
  * Enable automatic extending of full file systems on the Main Server
by default. This can be disabled in LDAP.
  * Add code to re-enable stopped CUPS queues every hour on the Main
Server, and flush all CUPS queues every night. Both can be
disabled in LDAP.
  * Add new script pxe-addfirmware to insert hardware firmware in PXE
images to support more hardware models.
  * Provide script sitesummary2ldapdhcp to update or populate GOsa
with system objects using information gathered by sitesummary, to
make it easier to add new computers to the network.
  * Now we disable (at least some of the) non-working features in GOsa
to avoid confusing system administrators.
  * Drop the 'localadmin' user, and ask during installation of the
Main-Server for user name and password for the first user (the
admin user). This user is set up as GOsa administrator, and the
'super-admin' user is no longer created, either. Also the Debian
Edu menu reordering is enabled for this initial user.
  * Provide network blocking / exam mode by default, controlled by
LDAP. This block selected hosts from accessing the Internet. In
addition to network blocking, changes to the Squid proxy
configuration is needed for this to be useful.
  * Now we provide a KDE menu entry for changing the password in GOsa.
  * Changing passwords using PAM is now working (by having implemented
a workaround for bug #656309 in libpam-krb5). This will only
update the Kerberos password, and not the Samba and GOsa(LDAP)
password.
  * Make sure to report an error and abort the installation when
trying to use the netinst images without a working Internet
connection, instead of silently installing a broken system.
  * Change partitioning for Standalone installs, to have separate
/home/ and no /usr.
  * Give first user on Standalone installs sudo access.
  * Updated documentation and translations
  + including images, as BTS 656846 has been fixed.

The following features are not working as they should

  * The RDP server set up on thin-client-servers gives distorted KDE
desktop at least when logging in using rdesktop (#608195). This is
a bug in the VNC server.
  * GOsa does not clean up properly when removing a system
(server/net-device) from LDAP (#650258). A patch for Debian
squeeze has been sent to the Debian release team.
  * GOsa proposes non-functional user names for people with non-ASCII
characters in their names (#657086). This issue only occurs in
gosa-2.6.11 (squeeze) and a patch for Debian squeeze has been sent
to the Debian release team.

To download this multiarch netinstall CD release you can use

  * 
ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-beta/debian-edu-6.0.4+edub3-CD.iso
  * 
http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-beta/debian-edu-6.0.4+edub3-CD.iso
  * rsync -avzP 
ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/squeeze-beta/debian-edu-6.0.4+edub3-CD.iso

To download this multiarch DVD release you can use

  * 
ftp://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-beta/debian-edu-6.0.4+edub3-DVD.iso
  * 
http://ftp.skolelinux.org/skolelinux-cd/squeeze-beta/debian-edu-6.0.4+edub3-DVD.iso
  * rsync -avzP 
ftp.skolelinux.org::skolelinux-cd/squeeze-beta/debian-edu-6.0.4+edub3-DVD.iso

There is no source DVD available yet. It will be prepared when 

Re: NFS options

2012-02-04 Thread Giorgio Pioda

> Digging further into it ...
> 
> AFAIK rpc.statd isn't needed and doesn't run on tjener even if LTSP is 
> used. For testing, I've set NEED_STATD=no and LTSP seems to work quite 
> well. Maybe that's due to the fact that nfsv4 supports nfsv3 mounts.

That's the point !

Regards

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Processed: Re: Bug#658563: debian-edu-config: [INTL:id] Indonesian debconf templates translation

2012-02-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> tags 658563 + pending
Bug #658563 [src:debian-edu-config] debian-edu-config: [INTL:id] Indonesian 
debconf templates translation
Added tag(s) pending.
> thanks
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Bug#658563: debian-edu-config: [INTL:id] Indonesian debconf templates translation

2012-02-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
tags 658563 + pending
thanks

[Kurniawan Haikal]
> id.po attached.

Thank you.  I've commited this to svn, and it will be included in a
future upload.

Perhaps you find time to translate the web page (debian-edu-config/www/)
and the install time questions (debian-edu-install/debian/po) for Debian
Edu as well?
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Re: NFS options

2012-02-04 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 11:06:11AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Wolfgang Schweer]
> > AFAIK rpc.statd isn't needed and doesn't run on tjener even if LTSP
> > is used.
> 
> How strange.  It is running on my tjener (main+ltsp).
> 
> > For testing, I've set NEED_STATD=no and LTSP seems to work quite
> > well. Maybe that's due to the fact that nfsv4 supports nfsv3 mounts.
> 
> Of course LTSP work well.  statd is as far as I remember only used
> when the NFSv3 server reboots.  Did you test a server reboot to see
> how it went?

Yes. First restart nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server, then to be sure a 
reboot of tjener as well.

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Re: NFS options

2012-02-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Wolfgang Schweer]
> AFAIK rpc.statd isn't needed and doesn't run on tjener even if LTSP
> is used.

How strange.  It is running on my tjener (main+ltsp).

> For testing, I've set NEED_STATD=no and LTSP seems to work quite
> well. Maybe that's due to the fact that nfsv4 supports nfsv3 mounts.

Of course LTSP work well.  statd is as far as I remember only used
when the NFSv3 server reboots.  Did you test a server reboot to see
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Re: NFS options

2012-02-04 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 10:40:22AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Giorgio Pioda]
> > Probably my i3 test machine is not the perfect setup to have an
> > idea about performance, but...
> > 
> > I see that Ubuntu as workstation client is WAY faster than DebianEdu
> > workstation. Probably tis is more related to Gnome2 vs KDE4, but in any case
> > my Ubuntu setup is running without NFS3 daemon.
> 
> Well, unless you can document that the Debian Edu workstation get
> significantly faster by disabling rpc.statd, I believe it is best to
> leave this change to Wheezy.  Ubuntu/Gnome is faster than Debian Edu/KDE
> is not really telling much about how rpc.statd affect performance.
> 
> If you believe rpc.statd is started by mistake by the package when only
> NFSv4 is used, is it not better to report a bug to BTS and ask for the
> Debian package to be changed?

Digging further into it ...

AFAIK rpc.statd isn't needed and doesn't run on tjener even if LTSP is 
used. For testing, I've set NEED_STATD=no and LTSP seems to work quite 
well. Maybe that's due to the fact that nfsv4 supports nfsv3 mounts.

(logged in as root / LTSP terminal): 
modinfo nfs

filename:   /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-486/kernel/fs/nfs/nfs.ko
license:GPL
author: Olaf Kirch 
depends:sunrpc,fscache,lockd,auth_rpcgss,nfs_acl
vermagic:   2.6.32-5-486 mod_unload modversions 486 
parm:   callback_tcpport:portnr
parm:   cache_getent:Path to the client cache upcall program (string)
parm:   cache_getent_timeout:Timeout (in seconds) after which the cache 
upcall is assumed to have failed (ulong)
parm:   enable_ino64:bool

 
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Re: NFS options

2012-02-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Giorgio Pioda]
> Probably my i3 test machine is not the perfect setup to have an
> idea about performance, but...
> 
> I see that Ubuntu as workstation client is WAY faster than DebianEdu
> workstation. Probably tis is more related to Gnome2 vs KDE4, but in any case
> my Ubuntu setup is running without NFS3 daemon.

Well, unless you can document that the Debian Edu workstation get
significantly faster by disabling rpc.statd, I believe it is best to
leave this change to Wheezy.  Ubuntu/Gnome is faster than Debian Edu/KDE
is not really telling much about how rpc.statd affect performance.

If you believe rpc.statd is started by mistake by the package when only
NFSv4 is used, is it not better to report a bug to BTS and ask for the
Debian package to be changed?

Btw, I wrote wrong earlier. I meant to write LTSP still uses NFSv3, not
NFSv4.
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Re: Kerberos TGT and NFS

2012-02-04 Thread Andreas B. Mundt
Hi Giorgio,

On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 10:17:23AM +0100, Giorgio Pioda wrote:

> I got Ubuntu running, nice. But IMHO it shouldn't. I don't understand
> the black magic I've produced by myself, about the nfs/client kerberos
> granting.
> 
> I didn't copy nor generate any krb5.keytab for the nfs/client and
> although this fact nfs works.
> 
> How is the TGT nfs working? Is the keytab stored i ldap? In this latter case
> I fear that a MAC spoof would lead to unattended mounting of clients that are
> not aknowledged.
> 
> Do you have an explanation, a reference link?
> 

Skolelinux doesn't use kerberized NFSv4 yet.  There is no mechanism
available to create and copy the keytabs.  Perhaps this can be done
with a GOsa hook, however then the client needs to be available to scp
the keytab ...

However, you might be able to switch kerberization on by doing the
above manually and remove the sec=sys part in /etc/exports of the
mainserver. 

Regards,

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Kerberos TGT and NFS

2012-02-04 Thread Giorgio Pioda
Hi,

I got Ubuntu running, nice. But IMHO it shouldn't. I don't understand
the black magic I've produced by myself, about the nfs/client kerberos
granting.

I didn't copy nor generate any krb5.keytab for the nfs/client and
although this fact nfs works.

How is the TGT nfs working? Is the keytab stored i ldap? In this latter case
I fear that a MAC spoof would lead to unattended mounting of clients that are
not aknowledged.

Do you have an explanation, a reference link?

Thanks

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Re: NFS options

2012-02-04 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 07:18:59AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> 
> [Mike Gabriel]
> > I am not sure about the performance improvement, never encountered a  
> > loss of performance. But having some ports less being open on TJENER  
> > is worth closing down the named services, isn't it?
> 
> Sure.  But I believe LTSP still use NFSv4 for its root file system, so
> changing it on tjener is not really realistic yet.  Am I wrong?

You're right. The LTSP root file system is mounted using nfsv3.

Leaving NEED_STATD unset (as it is) in /etc/default/nfs-common would be 
best.

And AFAIK GNOME2 is way faster than KDE4.
 
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Re: NFS options

2012-02-04 Thread Giorgio Pioda
Hi

On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 10:04:42PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Giorgio Pioda]
> > For workstations. I've the impression that it improve performance,
> > running one unuseful daemon less.
> 
> Interesting idea, but I do not really understand the context of your
> proposal.  Why do you have the impression that this improves
> performance?  How did you measure this?  Why do you believe rpc.statd
> isn't needed on workstations?  Is this because they only use NFSv4, or
> was there some other reason?
> 

Probably my i3 test machine is not the perfect setup to have an
idea about performance, but...

I see that Ubuntu as workstation client is WAY faster than DebianEdu
workstation. Probably tis is more related to Gnome2 vs KDE4, but in any case
my Ubuntu setup is running without NFS3 daemon.
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