re: kde icons slow on nfs
Den 8. apr. 2012 03:35 skrev shawn shawnland...@gmail.com følgende: re: http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Why_the_KDE_menu_is_slow_when__usr__is_NFS_mounted___and_a_workaround.html gtk uses a compiled cache that can be directly mmap()ed into processes. I am sure this is incompatible, but it probably doesn't suffer this problem. http://developer.gnome.org/gtk/2.24/gtk-update-icon-cache.html Does this mean that running Gnome with Debian edu does not have this problem? - Marius
Re: kde icons slow on nfs
[Marius Kotsbak] Does this mean that running Gnome with Debian edu does not have this problem? I was told by Mike Gabriel on IRC that Gnome have the same problem. I suspected it was a XDG related problem. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408073044.gs18...@login2.uio.no
Debian Local Area Network' (Debian-LAN)
Dear Reader, it is my pleasure to draw your attention to the 'Debian Local Area Network' project (Debian-LAN). The goal of Debian-LAN is to make setting up a local network with centralized user and machine management, intranet, etc. as easy as possible in Debian. To do that, the project aims for providing anything needed for such systems: Documentation, code, whatever. For the time being, the FAI framework [1] is employed to setup the system. However, the project is in general not limited to FAI. FAI's class system allows for great flexibility without loosing control over customization. All modifications are implemented in the config space and thereby documented in a well-structured way. So far, a set of FAI classes and the corresponding config space has been prepared to implement a Debian-LAN: * A mainserver with Kerberos KDC and LDAP including the FAI-server to install clients. * Clients are installed over the network from the mainserver, automounting their kerberized home directories. * Diskless clients are implemented as an option. The system is comparable to the debian-edu network and can be used for schools, small enterprises, associations, (university) work groups and much more. It provides the Gnome and LXDE desktop environment by default on the clients. Depending on your needs, you can easily add a customized package selection. For example the metapackages of a Debian Blend. Everybody is invited to take a look, test, report back and of course contribute. More information can be obtained from the sources listed below [2]. We use a git repository [3] on collab-maint on Alioth. To install the mainserver, prepare a CD image following the instructions in the wiki[4] and get started! Looking forward to comments and ideas, best regards, Andi [1] URL:http://wiki.debian.org/FAI [2] Please do not hesitate to ask: Documentation: URL:http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLAN/, Mailing List: URL:http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-lan-devel/ IRC Channel: #debian-lan on irc.debian.org Alioth Project pages: URL:https://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-lan/ [3] To clone the repository use: git clone git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/debian-lan The repository contains the FAI config space for the provided setup. [4] URL:http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLAN/bootstrap -- -- A N D R E A S B. M U N D T GPG key: 4096R/617B586D 2010-03-22 Andreas B. Mundt--andreas.b.mu...@web.de Andreas B. Mundt--andi.mu...@web.de signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Local Area Network' (Debian-LAN)
Hi, Debian LAN is indeed interesting, simpler approach tha Edu. But I see some blocking missing features. 1) Subnet switch to an arbitrary 10.x.x.x/24 or even better 10.x.x.x/23 and also 192.169.x.x networks 2) The mainserver shouldn't act as gateway. Most plain, small organization networks have a dedicated gateway (which often is an ADSL router/gateway) and the server should live with this. Cheers Giorgio Givent that you'll provide such a fix, I'll probably do a test. On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:31:21AM +0200, Andreas B. Mundt wrote: Dear Reader, it is my pleasure to draw your attention to the 'Debian Local Area Network' project (Debian-LAN). The goal of Debian-LAN is to make setting up a local network with centralized user and machine management, intranet, etc. as easy as possible in Debian. To do that, the project aims for providing anything needed for such systems: Documentation, code, whatever. For the time being, the FAI framework [1] is employed to setup the system. However, the project is in general not limited to FAI. FAI's class system allows for great flexibility without loosing control over customization. All modifications are implemented in the config space and thereby documented in a well-structured way. So far, a set of FAI classes and the corresponding config space has been prepared to implement a Debian-LAN: * A mainserver with Kerberos KDC and LDAP including the FAI-server to install clients. * Clients are installed over the network from the mainserver, automounting their kerberized home directories. * Diskless clients are implemented as an option. The system is comparable to the debian-edu network and can be used for schools, small enterprises, associations, (university) work groups and much more. It provides the Gnome and LXDE desktop environment by default on the clients. Depending on your needs, you can easily add a customized package selection. For example the metapackages of a Debian Blend. Everybody is invited to take a look, test, report back and of course contribute. More information can be obtained from the sources listed below [2]. We use a git repository [3] on collab-maint on Alioth. To install the mainserver, prepare a CD image following the instructions in the wiki[4] and get started! Looking forward to comments and ideas, best regards, Andi [1] URL:http://wiki.debian.org/FAI [2] Please do not hesitate to ask: Documentation: URL:http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLAN/, Mailing List: URL:http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-lan-devel/ IRC Channel: #debian-lan on irc.debian.org Alioth Project pages: URL:https://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-lan/ [3] To clone the repository use: git clone git://git.debian.org/git/collab-maint/debian-lan The repository contains the FAI config space for the provided setup. [4] URL:http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLAN/bootstrap -- -- A N D R E A S B. M U N D T GPG key: 4096R/617B586D 2010-03-22 Andreas B. Mundt--andreas.b.mu...@web.de Andreas B. Mundt--andi.mu...@web.de -- Sysadmin SPSE-Tenero Ufficio: +41 91 735 62 48 Cellulare: +41 79 629 20 63 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408091339.ga5...@ticino.com
Re: Debian Local Area Network' (Debian-LAN)
Hi, On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:13:40AM +0200, Giorgio Pioda wrote: Debian LAN is indeed interesting, simpler approach tha Edu. But I see some blocking missing features. 1) Subnet switch to an arbitrary 10.x.x.x/24 or even better 10.x.x.x/23 and also 192.169.x.x networks It shouldn't be a problem to grep/sed through the config space and modify that. Providing an 'automatic' implementation (some variables defining the network with automatic creation/modification of files) is of course possible, but will add code and complexity. 2) The mainserver shouldn't act as gateway. Most plain, small organization networks have a dedicated gateway (which often is an ADSL router/gateway) and the server should live with this. I run the system on exactly such a system, however there is a M$-windows system attached to the same ADSL router/gateway I do not want to interfere with. The only modification of the published setup I need is modifying the external interface in /etc/network/interfaces to read: # The external network interface allow-hotplug eth0 auto eth0 #iface eth0 inet dhcp iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.123.12 -- available address in the 'router network' netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.123.255 gateway 192.168.123.254 -- ADSL router IP Givent that you'll provide such a fix, I'll probably do a test. Providing a setup without the mainerver acting as gateway ( issue 2) ) is planed for Setup_B. Best regards, Andi -- Sysadmin SPSE-Tenero Ufficio: +41 91 735 62 48 Cellulare: +41 79 629 20 63 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408091339.ga5...@ticino.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408095239.GC9680@flashgordon
Re: Debian Local Area Network' (Debian-LAN)
Hi Andy Providing a setup without the mainerver acting as gateway ( issue 2) ) is planed for Setup_B. Teased to see it soon :-) Cheers Frohe Ostern Giorgio -- Sysadmin SPSE-Tenero Ufficio: +41 91 735 62 48 Cellulare: +41 79 629 20 63 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408100119.ga5...@ticino.com
Re: Debian Local Area Network' (Debian-LAN)
Hi Giorgio, On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:01:19PM +0200, Giorgio Pioda wrote: Providing a setup without the mainerver acting as gateway ( issue 2) ) is planed for Setup_B. Teased to see it soon :-) Done. Here it is: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-lan-devel/2012q2/77.html http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-lan-devel/2012q2/78.html I also updated the wiki http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLAN/Setup_A Let me know if you run into problems or something is unclear. Best regards, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408143154.GD9680@flashgordon
Re: Debian Local Area Network' (Debian-LAN)
Hi, On 08/04/12 10:13, Giorgio Pioda wrote: 1) Subnet switch to an arbitrary 10.x.x.x/24 or even better 10.x.x.x/23 and also 192.169.x.x networks I agree, that aspect of Debian Edu's network architecture has always bugged me too, but I imagine it's because an address had to be hardcoded in some of the configs. Using a randomly-chosen 10.x.x.0/24 subnet means you can link several of these subnets together with straightforward routing between gateway machines, without resorting to awkward NAT. It would be easy and very fun to link together neighbouring Debian-LANs between homes/offices with wireless meshes and fast wired links. Randomising as much as you can in network address avoids the chance of a collision and having to renumber (and the chance is higher than you might think, due to the birthday paradox). This is similar in principle to RFC4193 unique local IPv6 subnets. (Debian-LAN could implement those too!) Or, you can run as many /24's as you need off the same mainserver and it can still route traffic between hosts, so I doubt there's a need for a /23 subnet or larger. (Unless you really need for a broadcast domain to span more than 254 hosts...). Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81b99f.60...@pyro.eu.org
Re: skolelinux.org and download locations
On 12/03/12 21:52, Steven Chamberlain wrote: * The CD icon on http://www.slx.no/en/downloads still links to a Lenny DVD install image (the text links seem okay though). This is still broken after three times I have mentioned it on the debian-edu list... Next to the DVD icon/link are the words This is the latest version... but it actually still links to a lenny DVD .iso. The same link is also broken (and word 'download' appears instead of missing DVD icon image) in what was copied to the new server: http://speaker.skolelinux.org/index.php/en/downloads Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81bf94.2020...@pyro.eu.org
update lenny -- squeeze
Hi, I'm going to do my first skolelinux update. And i've some question before: 1.) I modified LDAP, because of some (difficult) reasons, our WLan-Clients are in a 192.168.33.* vlan. So I add this entries to the LDAP-db. Do I've to modify the script in /usr/bin/ldap-debian-edu-config for this? Where can i find this script in www? 2.) Are there any changes made to the /etc/network/interfaces after upgrade? 3.) For some reasons, I changed rsyslog to syslog-ng. Does this matter? 4.) If every thing goes wrong, and i want go back to a new lenny installation: Do I only have to copy /etc/* and /skole/tjener/*. Where are the ldap-files (db)? Is it enough to copy /var/lib/ldap/* 5.) If I want to make a fresh squeeze installation: Do i only have to copy the same files/dirs, and run /usr/bin/ldap-debian-edu-config? (Or mount the corresponding partitions) 6.) I changed the gateway to 10.0.0.1 and the subnetmask to 255.0.0.0. Is this affect by the upgrade? And: I'm using a test-environment before :-) . Thanks, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81cba4.6040...@web.de
Re: update lenny -- squeeze
[Martin Schulte] Hi, I'm going to do my first skolelinux update. And i've some question before: My recommondation is to install a new Squeeze server, and copy the user and host information into LDAP and copy the home directories into the new servers disk. Give every user a new password too, to ensure the Kerberos password is set. There is just too much changed to hope to be able to upgrade an existing lenny server to a Squeeze server. This way you will be able to switch back without any problems. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408180822.gw18...@login2.uio.no
Re: update lenny -- squeeze
Hi and thank you, and copy the user and host information into LDAP and copy the home directories into the new servers disk copy the user and host information into LDAP means doing it manually (export user into csv and import them?). Or can I use the Lenny LDAP-db on squeeze and the mentioned script? Martin Am 08.04.2012 20:08, schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: [Martin Schulte] Hi, I'm going to do my first skolelinux update. And i've some question before: My recommondation is to install a new Squeeze server, and copy the user and host information into LDAP and copy the home directories into the new servers disk. Give every user a new password too, to ensure the Kerberos password is set. There is just too much changed to hope to be able to upgrade an existing lenny server to a Squeeze server. This way you will be able to switch back without any problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81d7f1.7050...@web.de
Re: update lenny -- squeeze
[Martin Schulte] copy the user and host information into LDAP means doing it manually (export user into csv and import them?). That is what I had in mind, yes. The user LDAP objects are very different in Squeeze compared to Lenny. Might be better to follow the instructions on URL: http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Setting_up_a_new_school_with_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html for hosts. Or can I use the Lenny LDAP-db on squeeze and the mentioned script? No idea, but I doubt it. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120408185116.gx18...@login2.uio.no
Re: update lenny -- squeeze
Hi Martin, On So 08 Apr 2012 20:51:16 CEST Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Martin Schulte] copy the user and host information into LDAP means doing it manually (export user into csv and import them?). That is what I had in mind, yes. The user LDAP objects are very different in Squeeze compared to Lenny. Might be better to follow the instructions on URL: http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Setting_up_a_new_school_with_Debian_Edu_Squeeze.html for hosts. Or can I use the Lenny LDAP-db on squeeze and the mentioned script? No idea, but I doubt it. It is possible to manually upgrade your LDAP database from lenny to squeeze. However, this needs a very very very deep insight into the interna of LDAP, GOsa² and LWAT as configured with Debian Edu. I have also done such a migration from an Arktur server to Debian Edu squeeze. The software I use for such upgrades is: ldapvi (and sed, grep, etc.). Greets, Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 GnuPG Key ID 0xB588399B mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpwEIhVE5Im3.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Unterschrift
Re: skolelinux.org and download locations
Le 8 avril 2012 12:40, Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org a écrit : On 12/03/12 21:52, Steven Chamberlain wrote: * The CD icon on http://www.slx.no/en/downloads still links to a Lenny DVD install image (the text links seem okay though). This is still broken after three times I have mentioned it on the debian-edu list... Next to the DVD icon/link are the words This is the latest version... but it actually still links to a lenny DVD .iso. The same link is also broken (and word 'download' appears instead of missing DVD icon image) in what was copied to the new server: http://speaker.skolelinux.org/index.php/en/downloads Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-edu-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f81bf94.2020...@pyro.eu.org Hello Steven, thank you for your input I removed the link from the CD icon, as you can choose the version you need by clicking on the appropriate link below the icon. I'll do the change to the other languages on slx.no (if needed) and on speaker.s.o We've not uploaded the images on speaker server yet (write permission problem), that's why you see there that it's missing. We're looking at that too. Please note that the version on speaker is still a work in progress, to which you're welcome to contribute :-) thanks Olivier Vitrat
