Re: Debian Edu clients on a Windows AD network (Was: UCS School (Link to German page))
On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:50:13AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I'm not aware of anyone selling support for running Debian Edu clients > in a Windows server environment… but we both know a company who did this in the past :-) so yes, it's doable… -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: UCS School (Link to German page)
Hi, On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 08:26:12AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I've just read this article about UCS@school > > http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/23680/ucsschool-41-r2-freigegeben.html > > Is there any relation to Debian Edu work and if not why not or should we > cooperate to some extend? > AFAICT this is just the standard univention domain controler with some school administration stuff added. GNU/Linux clients (as, for example, the Univention Corporate Client UCC) are only partially supported [1] by this solution and not first class citizens. Focus is clearly on the UCS-server with Windows clients, not in supporting Free Software as the client OS. Regards, Andi [1] from http://docs.software-univention.de/ucsschool-handbuch.html> " Für die Integration von UCC in UCS@school gelten die folgenden Einschränkungen: Für die Integration von UCC-Desktop-Systemen in UCS@school ist die Verwendung von Samba 4 auf dem UCS@school-Schulserver erforderlich. Die UCC-Systeme müssen mit dem offiziellen Desktop-Image (oder einem äquivalenten, selbst erstellten Image) installiert werden. UCC-ThinClient-Systeme bzw. UCC-Terminalserver werden in Verbindung mit UCS@school nicht unterstützt. Der über iTALC realisierte Präsentationsmodus sowie das Beaufsichtigen von Systemen über das UMC-Modul Computerraum werden für UCC-Systeme derzeit nicht unterstützt. Die über CUPS eingebundenen Druckerfreigaben unterstützen nicht alle Kombinationen für Zugriffsberechtigungen. Das Freigeben aller Drucker über das Computerraum-Modul hat daher keine Auswirkung auf UCC-Systeme. Der Klassenarbeitsmodus von UCS@school wird auf UCC-Systemen nicht unterstützt."
Debian Edu clients on a Windows AD network (Was: UCS School (Link to German page))
[Dominik George] > One interesting thing would be to enable Debian Edu clients to run in a UCS > environment. Personally, I do not think supporting a proprietary server > product is worth the effort (do we support Debian Edu clients running in a > Windows server environment?), but that would be one point where I see > possibilities for cooperation. I'm not aware of anyone selling support for running Debian Edu clients in a Windows server environment, but expect it would be fairly easy to set up by installing a roaming workstation setup and modifying /etc/sssd/sssd.conf to use the Active Directory server as its authentication and user database. I might even implemtnt this if someone pay me serious money to look at the issue. :) > Personally, I think we should rather strive to make GoSA keep up with > UCS. Fine with me. :) -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen
Re: UCS School (Link to German page)
Hi, > I've just read this article about UCS@school > > http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/23680/ucsschool-41-r2-freigegeben.html > > Is there any relation to Debian Edu work and if not why not or should we > cooperate to some extend? We are running UCS at work and the answer is: Yes, UCS is in some way related to Debian Edu, or, better put, to GoSA. But only because both partially do the same thing. No, UCS is not related to Debian (Edu) from a technical point of view. UCS is based on an old Ubuntu version with partially quite crippled proprietary packages. I have worked with UCS for some years and also with GoSA², and have found only few things UCS can do better than GoSA. One of these things are LDAP triggers - UCS can trigger arbitrary scripts on defined LDAP changes, coming in handy at times when data from LDAP needs to be synchronised in some way, e.g. running ldap2bind. But these things that UCS can do better are non-free, proprietary additions which we should probably re-implement. I have already started work on the trigger thing some time ago (it is not as simple as it sounds). One interesting thing would be to enable Debian Edu clients to run in a UCS environment. Personally, I do not think supporting a proprietary server product is worth the effort (do we support Debian Edu clients running in a Windows server environment?), but that would be one point where I see possibilities for cooperation. Personally, I think we should rather strive to make GoSA keep up with UCS. -nik -- PGP-Fingerprint: 3C9D 54A4 7575 C026 FB17 FD26 B79A 3C16 A0C4 F296 Dominik George · Mobil: +49-1520-1981389 Teckids e.V. · FrOSCon e.V. · OpenRheinRuhr e.V. Fellowship of the FSFE · Piratenpartei Deutschland Opencaching Deutschland e.V. · Debian Contributor LPIC-3 Linux Enterprise Professional (Security) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
UCS School (Link to German page)
Hi folks, I've just read this article about UCS@school http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/23680/ucsschool-41-r2-freigegeben.html Is there any relation to Debian Edu work and if not why not or should we cooperate to some extend? Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de
