Processed: Re: Why won't you ship /usr/bin/gcc-snapshot?

2011-12-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug #431014 [gcc-snapshot] Why won't you ship /usr/bin/gcc-snapshot?
Bug Marked as found in versions gcc-snapshot/20111210-1.
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Bug #431014 [gcc-snapshot] Why won't you ship /usr/bin/gcc-snapshot?
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Bug#431014: Why won't you ship /usr/bin/gcc-snapshot?

2011-12-30 Thread Jonathan Nieder
found 431014 gcc-snapshot/20111210-1
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Hi Adam,

Adam Borowski wrote:

 I see no reason why it couldn't simply be shipped in the package
 outright.  It's not like it invades anyone's namespace, etc.  It would be
 also consistent with all other gcc packages, all having the executable named
 the same as the package.  At least after having tested my stuff with gcc-4.2
 in the past, I didn't even suspect gcc-snapshot could be any different until
 ./configure failed :p

I suspect it's to save people from the pain of using the snapshot to build
Debian packages on autobuilders when wanting to use a new feature or
after running into a bug with one of the released gcc versions.

Tagging wontfix to reflect the de facto status.

Thanks for writing,
Jonathan



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 found 498708 gcc-4.3/4.3.5-4
Bug #498708 [g++-4.3] [PR tree-optimization/38355] ICE with fipa-* optimization 
options
Bug Marked as found in versions gcc-4.3/4.3.5-4.
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Bug#431014: Why won't you ship /usr/bin/gcc-snapshot?

2011-12-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-12-30 13:08:24 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
 Adam Borowski wrote:
  I see no reason why it couldn't simply be shipped in the package
  outright. It's not like it invades anyone's namespace, etc. It
  would be also consistent with all other gcc packages, all having
  the executable named the same as the package. At least after
  having tested my stuff with gcc-4.2 in the past, I didn't even
  suspect gcc-snapshot could be any different until ./configure
  failed :p
 
 I suspect it's to save people from the pain of using the snapshot to
 build Debian packages on autobuilders when wanting to use a new
 feature or after running into a bug with one of the released gcc
 versions.

I use gcc-snapshot as a simple end user of GCC, in order to do some
portability tests of my programs (not directly related to Debian)
with the latest GCC features, in particular. So, providing
/usr/bin/gcc-snapshot would be natural.

Do you mean that you don't want gcc-snapshot to be in /usr/bin
because this would yield problems on autobuilders? But wouldn't
be the autobuilders' fault?

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Bug#431014: Why won't you ship /usr/bin/gcc-snapshot?

2011-12-30 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Vincent Lefevre wrote:

 Do you mean that you don't want gcc-snapshot to be in /usr/bin
 because this would yield problems on autobuilders?

No, I mean that packagers can but should not use

Build-Depends: gcc-snapshot

CC = gcc-snapshot

Don't do that, then. you might say.  But not providing a
/usr/bin/gcc-snapshot wrapper provides people with a reminder to look
at README.Debian and not to do that.

There may be ways to make using gcc-snapshot more convenient without
that problem, of course (and well justified patches are as always
welcome).

Hope that helps,
Jonathan



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Bug#431014: Why won't you ship /usr/bin/gcc-snapshot?

2011-12-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-12-30 17:15:00 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
 No, I mean that packagers can but should not use
 
   Build-Depends: gcc-snapshot
 
   CC = gcc-snapshot
 
 Don't do that, then. you might say.  But not providing a
 /usr/bin/gcc-snapshot wrapper provides people with a reminder to look
 at README.Debian and not to do that.

OK. Couldn't the wrapper detect that it is being used by a packager
(e.g. because some environment variable is set by the build process)
and output an error in such a case?

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