Re: Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:35:24PM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:26:32PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:47:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > > Anyway, just wait a bit and it'll be fine, or download the older version > > > > of locales by hand. It's not difficult. > > > > > > While waiting or downgrading is an option, I simply insist on the fact > > > that this problem shouldn't issue _at all_, and that it should be > > > fixed by preventing this from happening. > > > If you don't want this to happen, use testing rather than unstable. It's > > designed to insulate you from (most of) these kinds of problems. > > Always the same answer... Instead of telling "use at your own risk", > shouldn't we simply try to solve known problems? > > There are some good reasons I'm forced to run Debian unstable, believe > me. Why should I (and potentially many others) be annoyed by things > that seem to be easily be avoidable with a little more fine-grained > handling? Because that dependency has repeatedly been demonstrated to be necessary, and when we leave it out we get bug reports that people's locales don't work? -- Daniel Jacobowitz MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer
Re: Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:26:32PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:47:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Anyway, just wait a bit and it'll be fine, or download the older version > > > of locales by hand. It's not difficult. > > > > While waiting or downgrading is an option, I simply insist on the fact > > that this problem shouldn't issue _at all_, and that it should be > > fixed by preventing this from happening. > If you don't want this to happen, use testing rather than unstable. It's > designed to insulate you from (most of) these kinds of problems. Always the same answer... Instead of telling "use at your own risk", shouldn't we simply try to solve known problems? There are some good reasons I'm forced to run Debian unstable, believe me. Why should I (and potentially many others) be annoyed by things that seem to be easily be avoidable with a little more fine-grained handling? Herve -- _ (°= Hervé Eychenne //) Homepage: http://www.eychenne.org/ v_/_ WallFire project: http://www.wallfire.org/
Re: Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:47:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:28:48AM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > > Colin Watson wrote: > > > Architecture: all packages such as locales are only built on one > > > architecture, but used by all architectures regardless of whether the > > > rest of the source package has been built for them. This saves all the > > > build daemons having to build identical packages. > > It seems I'm facing this same problem again: > > > > --- > > # apt-get install locales > [...] > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-10 but it is not installable > > E: Broken packages > > > > --- > > > > I understand the reasons why it occurs, but something should _really_ > > be done to avoid that many people like me should face this problem > > again. Just think about the cumulated time all these people will > > lose... > Why are you mailing me? I don't maintain glibc. Sorry, I mailed that to you because I'm not a debian developper myself, and you were talking about this. (glibc maintainers now Cc'ed) > Anyway, just wait a bit and it'll be fine, or download the older version > of locales by hand. It's not difficult. While waiting or downgrading is an option, I simply insist on the fact that this problem shouldn't issue _at all_, and that it should be fixed by preventing this from happening. Thanks, Hervé -- _ (°= Hervé Eychenne //) Homepage: http://www.eychenne.org/ v_/_ WallFire project: http://www.wallfire.org/
Re: Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:47:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > Anyway, just wait a bit and it'll be fine, or download the older version > > of locales by hand. It's not difficult. > > While waiting or downgrading is an option, I simply insist on the fact > that this problem shouldn't issue _at all_, and that it should be > fixed by preventing this from happening. If you don't want this to happen, use testing rather than unstable. It's designed to insulate you from (most of) these kinds of problems. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:35:24PM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:26:32PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:47:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > > Anyway, just wait a bit and it'll be fine, or download the older version > > > > of locales by hand. It's not difficult. > > > > > > While waiting or downgrading is an option, I simply insist on the fact > > > that this problem shouldn't issue _at all_, and that it should be > > > fixed by preventing this from happening. > > > If you don't want this to happen, use testing rather than unstable. It's > > designed to insulate you from (most of) these kinds of problems. > > Always the same answer... Instead of telling "use at your own risk", > shouldn't we simply try to solve known problems? > > There are some good reasons I'm forced to run Debian unstable, believe > me. Why should I (and potentially many others) be annoyed by things > that seem to be easily be avoidable with a little more fine-grained > handling? Because that dependency has repeatedly been demonstrated to be necessary, and when we leave it out we get bug reports that people's locales don't work? -- Daniel Jacobowitz MontaVista Software Debian GNU/Linux Developer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:26:32PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:47:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Anyway, just wait a bit and it'll be fine, or download the older version > > > of locales by hand. It's not difficult. > > > > While waiting or downgrading is an option, I simply insist on the fact > > that this problem shouldn't issue _at all_, and that it should be > > fixed by preventing this from happening. > If you don't want this to happen, use testing rather than unstable. It's > designed to insulate you from (most of) these kinds of problems. Always the same answer... Instead of telling "use at your own risk", shouldn't we simply try to solve known problems? There are some good reasons I'm forced to run Debian unstable, believe me. Why should I (and potentially many others) be annoyed by things that seem to be easily be avoidable with a little more fine-grained handling? Herve -- _ (°= Hervé Eychenne //) Homepage: http://www.eychenne.org/ v_/_ WallFire project: http://www.wallfire.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:47:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:28:48AM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > > Colin Watson wrote: > > > Architecture: all packages such as locales are only built on one > > > architecture, but used by all architectures regardless of whether the > > > rest of the source package has been built for them. This saves all the > > > build daemons having to build identical packages. > > It seems I'm facing this same problem again: > > > > --- > > # apt-get install locales > [...] > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > > locales: Depends: glibc-2.3.2.ds1-10 but it is not installable > > E: Broken packages > > > > --- > > > > I understand the reasons why it occurs, but something should _really_ > > be done to avoid that many people like me should face this problem > > again. Just think about the cumulated time all these people will > > lose... > Why are you mailing me? I don't maintain glibc. Sorry, I mailed that to you because I'm not a debian developper myself, and you were talking about this. (glibc maintainers now Cc'ed) > Anyway, just wait a bit and it'll be fine, or download the older version > of locales by hand. It's not difficult. While waiting or downgrading is an option, I simply insist on the fact that this problem shouldn't issue _at all_, and that it should be fixed by preventing this from happening. Thanks, Hervé -- _ (°= Hervé Eychenne //) Homepage: http://www.eychenne.org/ v_/_ WallFire project: http://www.wallfire.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Hervé Eychenne wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:47:14AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > Anyway, just wait a bit and it'll be fine, or download the older version > > of locales by hand. It's not difficult. > > While waiting or downgrading is an option, I simply insist on the fact > that this problem shouldn't issue _at all_, and that it should be > fixed by preventing this from happening. If you don't want this to happen, use testing rather than unstable. It's designed to insulate you from (most of) these kinds of problems. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:16:18PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > Architecture: all Uh, I missed it. Thank you. Cheers Artur -- * Croolik jest dzielna, zeżarła 3 zęby. /stosowana medycyna naturalna/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 06:30:35PM +0100, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:48:32PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > > This will be fixed with tomorrow's mirror pulse, with libc6 2.3.2-9 > Thank you. > BTW, I am curious how it is possible. Please, correct me, if I am wrong. > > There is one source package: glibc. This package is passed to builder > (human or robot, no difference for this analysis). If everyting is OK > some binary packages are build. If any error occurs... well, there are two > cases. > 1. Compilation error. It stops process, we have no binary packages. > 2. Package build error. It stops process, but is is possible that some debs >are created. There are not signed and (I suppose) not accepted by katie. > > In both cases we have none binary packages. Architecture: all packages such as locales are only built on one architecture, but used by all architectures regardless of whether the rest of the source package has been built for them. This saves all the build daemons having to build identical packages. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#217355: acknowledged by developer (fixed)
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 08:48:32PM -0600, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > This will be fixed with tomorrow's mirror pulse, with libc6 2.3.2-9 Thank you. BTW, I am curious how it is possible. Please, correct me, if I am wrong. There is one source package: glibc. This package is passed to builder (human or robot, no difference for this analysis). If everyting is OK some binary packages are build. If any error occurs... well, there are two cases. 1. Compilation error. It stops process, we have no binary packages. 2. Package build error. It stops process, but is is possible that some debs are created. There are not signed and (I suppose) not accepted by katie. In both cases we have none binary packages. This bug, however resolved, is weird for me. Could anyone explain me this behavior or point me a mistake in my reasoning? Thanks for your attention. Cheers Artur -- Dopóty dysk dane nosi, póki mu bootsector nie padnie /z pamiętnika administratora/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
